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Sanjana Jon on Anand Jon
Following my earlier post on Anand Jon, someone named GWB left a link to a Dallas Obserer article about him. Although GWB claimed it gives you ‘both sides’ of the story, I found it too one sided. I decided to get in touch with Sanjana Jon, his sister, to get some questions answered.
Here is the chat transcript:
Mutiny: Sanajana, let me start by asking you how your mother is doing? It must be pretty tough for a mother to have her son in prison and acussed of these crimes.
Sanjana Jon: I dont want to describe how she feels but not just as a mother and sister but as people who worked with him and lived with him–knowing that none of this ever happened it is traumatizing and kills us seeing this injustice.
M: Do you speak to your brother often? What is he going through?
SJ: he is waiting to take this to trial and bring out the truth– the fact of the matter is that they have tried their best to keep us from defending this case–by sending the same girls to Texas to file–then to NY– its a travelling circus that brought their own tickets and followed him from state to state and claim something happened in every state—the way they manipulated the system and gridlocked us into a no bail situation is terrible and against the US constitution which states every person has the right to a reasonable bail— why are we being denied that. Worldwide the basic law is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. Why is he in jail–in solitary confinement in a cage- brought out only in chains and shackles and chained to the wall— he does not have any history of violence so why this inhuman treatment for 8 months now.
M: I read he is an Indian Citizen, is that true?
SJ: Yes he is.
M: Do you think that’s the reason?
SJ: Its definitely a big part why the case was manipulated by the prosecution– we trust the US justice system but its the people who are behind playing these manipulative games- if you actually google you will see thousands of cases where there is prosecutorial misconduct–over zealous prosecution–as in the rescent Duke case - the main difference here is being Indian we have no one to question what they are doing. Of the 40 counts in NY 30 are from the same girls between LA and TX–does that make sense –why are they doing this–just to keep him in jail and not allow a proper defense.If its an African American or Hispanic person - you have a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton questioning–in our case who is and who will?
M: Did you approach the Indian Embassy or Consulate? Did they offer any kind of help?
SJ: We have–the sfo consulate has been looking into this and hopefully will pursue this–we need them to—but in NY though we called innumerable times and requested Neelam Deo has not even responded once which is terrible since its this very consulate that honored Anand Jon over the years and gave him the title of cultural ambassador of India.
M: But there are so many Indian-American/South Asian associations in the US. Haven’t any of them taken on this issue?
SJ: We approached a few and they feel this has to be on a level that the government is fully involved
M: But surely if they can fight for allowing turbans in the army or more H1B visas, they can fight against the injustice done to an fellow countrymen?
SJ: When its a US citizen the consulate and government get involved no matter where why or how–isnt an indian citizen important?–or just as improtant? Jacob–the fact of the matter is there is NO material evidence—no 911 calls–this whole thing propped up after Anand Jon’s company got funded and they thought 25 million had come into the account
M: Who do you think these people are? Surely there has to be someone working with the girls?
SJ: Yes–partners in the company–and there are people behind this whole conspiracy — for us to unfold this conspiracy theory Anand should be given a fair chance–you cant blindfold, tie up his hands and feet and then throw him in the ring to fight–it should be a fair fight — everyone thinks these things dont happen– well till it happens to you it doesnt– i never thought it would ever.
M: True. It should be fair. Is your family prepared to fight it to the end?
SJ: See again the fact is–Anand is the breadwinner in the family– he has taken care of my mother and me from 16 and now hes been in jail for the last 8months– we cant work neither can we—how can we fund this battle- the bail was illegally revoked and even though the judge ordered they pay us back the money–they havent and they just filed in the appelate court. Morally,mentally, spiritually, financially and physically we are being drained—and based on baseless allegations which do not have any factual evidence behind them—can they give back one day of our lives– look at the number of cases where after years they find the guy innocent and free him–here Anand is being framed—we know that —again not cos im his sister–but i worked and lived with him–these girls had no problems and travelled around and partied around way after their alleged ——they were not employees of the company–or even paid models— so does it make any sense—they waited for a good opportunity everytime in the last 8 months when we tried to set a court date for trial they would add something—new counts new jurisdictions etc–just to delay the process—even now though we are supposed to set date soon–they have been waiting to have a second inditement in NY–why when they knew there were people why hold them and add later–just to keep delaying these are very evil manipulative games being played to break us down and not even give us a chance to go to trial.
M: When do you think the case will go to court?
SJ: Based on allegations Anand has been held behind bars for 8 months and they can keep adding as and when they want to since there is nothing they need just the same group to say me too– and they did travel all over following him— so its so easy to add and pile up as and when they want to keep him where they wanted–behind bars.
M: Surely they can’t keep doing this for ever?
SJ: Well they have done this for 8 months–and they know we should run out of funds soon—then which attorney will fight for us– how will we survive–so they push you to take a plea.
M: Would he take a plea?
SJ: NEVER
M: Didn’t think so.
SJ: I’d rather die –our honor means more to us than anything– my brother struggled and worked grave yard shifts to take care of us– id rather die –when he never did anything– HE IS INNOCENT. Jacob people have only seen the outside–they dont know Anand—he doesnt smoke–doesnt drink–has never done drugs he is a workaholic and all he wanted was to work and build a name all by himself–never took a penny from our family–never had a god father he has been the foundation –this is so unfair you have no idea—- can they give us one day of our life?
M: In all these years, why did he remain an Indian Citizen?
SJ: Cos he always was proud to be an Indian and wanted to maintain that–he is on a special O1 category given to less than 1% immigrants–outstanding talent. To the prosecution in all honesty this is a great high profile globally known case with noone to question their doings since he is an Indian brown boy.
M: Are you and your mother Indian Citizens as well?
SJ: I’m a resident here–mom is an indian citizen
M: By resident you mean US citizen?
SJ: Green card
M: Do you think he will stay on in the US or elsewhere once he is freed in court?
SJ: Well—first and foremost—we have to prove his innocence–and then i dont want to live here thats for sure—i dont want to speak for Anand–thats his choice. We need to prove his innocence—we will given a chance.
M: That’s so wierd, it’s them who have to prove his guilt — as of now he is innocent.
SJ: Yeah Jacob–this is the irony–none of them have to prove anything–they dont have to prove anything ever happened–cos how can they 5 years ago–after being with him innumerable times—pictures and videos–showing how happy they are–they cant dont and wont whereas–Anand from jail is supposed to somehow by godly intervention prove it did not happen.
M: Are you going to appeal for money from the public to help fight the case?
SJ: Jacob–we have to if Anand is gonna be held like this–none of us are able to work–and the cost of carrying this case and even living is getting out of hand–jacob–me personally–and even Anand with me– we have always worked with charities and helping people–thru the years if anyone has committed rape or assault– i would be the first person to stand to put that person behind bars– but when a woman or women lie about such an incident they should be subjected to the same time behind bars.
M: From the Dallas Observer article, the critical point seems to be the allegations by underage girls. Did he know they were under age?
SJ: Jacob–there are model release forms and videos where they state and sign their age—again with most of these people there was never any involvement — its as stilly as touching while dresing — silly — one count if u can believe–ATTEMPTED KISS — but they somehow wanted this underage factor to be highlighted. Brooke Shields in the 80s—do u remember –well every person on that set and director,stylist, designer—should be behind bars the
this is 2007—and they are claiming such things is the US—-its manipulating the system–as i said–sexual battery–is actually touching the person while dressing — so playing with words–child pornography–well most models are under 18 so if you actually watch most shows on FTV or any fashion channel—its all considered CP — but now you have to understand here is a fashion designer-involved with entertainment–its crazy if you have actually been backstage at a fashion show to even think that touching while dressing can be a count
M: Was Anand the relationship type? Did he have a girl friend? How wash to the idea of marriage?
SJ: He wanted to make sure financially he was in a position to take care of a wife and family– when he was involved with any girl we would always meet her and go out or as a family spend time. though he was a workaholic he firmly believed in taking care of his family
M: Sanjana, thank you so much for your time.
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Athreya
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2:18 am
Good interview Chacko. It’s bad that his mother and sister need to endure this while building up a case as well. Having seen him and his entourage in the US media, my views are mixed at best. Contrary to Sanjana’s responses, per the media (NYT included), he was living large and promiscuous. Add to that comments like ones from his former publicist Chris Hulbert and things start to get disconcerting.
Irrespective of what people think, he should be given a fair chance to fight his case, and the truth should prevail.
unnecessary
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5:01 am
sanjana is mad because he was the breadwinner (her words) and they cannot live off him now.
Abhi
003
6:23 am
Give me a break. I hope the bum rots in jail.
tjd
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6:34 am
He has lead this kind of behavior every since he mysteriously left India at age 17. The family has invested millions into his name over the last 8 years. Anand, in his early 30’s and fooling around with teenagers. He should have grown up years ago. From what I’ve read and talked to there have been allegations of inaproprate hehavior with young girls, since he was a teenager in India and through out his time in the US. I always thought of him as friend, but when he came into town, I never called him, he always called me and always had to chauffer him around. I got tired his creepy behavior with the models and have tried to distance myself from him for several years now and not surprised by the mounting allegations. It is really sad Anand is such a talented individual.
Upset
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7:46 am
This whole situation breaks my heart. Anand is an amazing person and this seems like a bad dream.
VM
006
12:57 pm
What would you expect Sanjana and he mother to say? would they say..
“Anand Jon had been charged with committing a lewd act on a child in 2003, according to the Los Angeles Times. The paper reported that he had pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct. He was ordered to undergo almost a year of sex therapy as a part of his three-year probated sentence. Another condition: that he have no contact with any person under age 18 without the presence of a “responsible” adult.”
The article is great and does tell the story from the victims side well. I strongly recommend everyone to read this long report and you will figure out what was going and why the authorities are so harsh with him.
Some more quotes from the article…
“His attorney Ronald Richards has told reporters that the sex was consensual, that he forced no one.
Brianna claims that Sanjana found out she was 17 and started shrieking at her brother: “She’s a minor. What the hell were you thinking? What about our careers?”
Anand Jon now faces 32 charges involving 12 victims age 14 to 23 in Los Angeles alone.
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Chacko
007
8:27 pm
@Abhi. Nice reponse - will make your uncle Modi very proud of you. Don’t wait for a judge or the trail to begin - just pronouce him guilty. Very nice.
Good to know that you have changed your blog name to therealmutiny.com
VM
008
11:08 pm
Hello. Chacko.
1. I do not know what you are trying to refer to when you talk about Uncle Modi. I do not think calling names helps your point.
2. Let us agree on the following facts.
a. Anand’s attorney does not deny the sexual contact he denies that it was done by force or without consent. According to the article.
b. In USA even if a female consents to sex any sexual activity with a minor under the age of 18 is statutory rape. Three of the victims were under 18 at the time of alleged incidence.
c. Anand has already been granted bail but the family has not posted it because they know that as soon as he gets out of California jail the Prosecutors in Texas and New York are going to pick him up.
d. Sanjana is upset with solitary confinement in small cage like cell. I agree with her if he is being treated inhumanely that is not right and we should seek help from human rights group, civil liberties organizations.
e. US prison is a very dangerous place for handsome young man who is charged with sexual crimes. They often become a recipient of the crimes they are charged with. So in that sense Sanjana should watch out before she asks for removal from solitary confinement.
3. I agree with you that you are innocent until proven otherwise. However, sexual abuse and rape are the crimes that are treated differently in India and USA. The reason is simple.. The victims are so terrified and ashamed that they have a tendency not to report the crime.
So as unjust as it sounds upon a complaint of rape you are arrested.
I am sure that the fact the petitioner was a young white female and the perpetrator was highly powerful, rich, man in late twenties of brown color might have played some role in the harsh nature of treatment he is receiving.
As you read the Dallas article author did details the experience on not one but three females. And there is quite a bit of similarities.
4. There is evidence that two of these girls did try to complain to Police in New York but they were turned down because there was no physical proof. So the argument that suddenly these girls came from no where now that Anand was financially more successful.
5. Sanjana was quoted by one of the victims as having thrown a fit when she found out that her little bro was messing with an underage girl. See the article.
6. Now does this mean Anand is guilty? Absolutely not. But my problem is with Sanjana and her mother is …where were you when this was going on? As a female your self how can you not see this happening? Or were you so helpless out of your dependence on your brother that you kept your mouth shut? None of these things can be proven in the court of law but in the court of common sense we all can make our own judgment.
7. As an Indian my tendency is always to see us as victims whenever such issue arises. However when I read the news I suddenly asked my self, “how the hell I did not see this coming.”
8. I have witnessed Anand walking around with an entourage of underage white models at several Indian functions. His arrogance and disregard for others was evident.
I think that is the reason why there is no large scale community support for Anand.
9. One more note. I am not sure if it would be safe for Sanjana to be in USA. If prosecutors can find some way of implicating her in the crime I am sure they will go for it. Then she will be confronted with a difficult choice of plea bargaining and give information against her beloved bro or put her self in danger. Because I am sure they will try to catch her as a material witness.
I wish Sanjana and family can find the strength and support.
Peace.
VM
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11:29 pm
Sanjana conviniently forgets that back in 2003 he was charged with lewd act to a minor and he pleaded no contest.
She let her brother stay unmarried why? “He wanted to make sure financially he was in a position to take care of a wife and family!!!”
As you read more of her responses you see a pattern of not addressing specific charges but a broken record of “my brother is innocent!’
I think it is rude awakening for many powerful and rich people from India when they are caught with such crimes in USA. Because it is not as easy to get off by paying off victims or authorities here.
VM
010
11:31 pm
Let me ask you this.
If you had a younger sister or a daughter with aspiration of becoming a model and wanted to work with Anand and Sanjana would you let her do it?
Chacko
011
1:02 am
VM, the Uncle Modi comment has nothing to do with you. It is meant for Abhi.
I don’t know if Anand Jon is guilty or innocent. Let a judge decide, why are we taking on that responsibility?
tjd
012
8:30 am
The Dallas Observer article is so chilling because it accurately, showed how Anand operated personally and in business. Very rarely did I ever see him pick up a tab at an event, dinner, etc. Almost always somebody else. He always brought over local girls (come to think of it very young) to my home and never asked my permission. I assumed they were over 18. He always took over my home when in town and of course I got tired of it. It got to a point that when he called I would make of some type of excuse for not to pick him up, or not answer the phone. He definitely used me and I let him until I realized that I wasn’t friend but a servant to him (I’ve known Anand for many years.)
This has been building for many years, I just assumed that Anand was professional but when you put all pieces of information togather, it paints a pretty sad picture
vyas
013
10:54 am
Interesting read.
Waiting for a story which judges the case from all the perspectives.
Let the truth prevail .
karan
014
12:09 pm
Well Done Chaco!!
I believe eventually the truth will surface.
Wish this from my heart , the ones guilty should get the right treatment for all their misdeeds.
George
015
12:41 pm
The article describes something called the “accomodation syndrome” in young women. Are Indians back home going to dismiss that too as invention of western psychologists.? There are girls who are not that agressive in the modelling business who are looking for success where other people always try to exploit them.
The media image of american girls with no morals is totally wrong. The influence of the church is still strong here. If Annand did to one girl the pattern that was desribed in the dallas observer article he deserves the maximum sentence for rape.
I think once seemingly successful Indian boys are pampered too much and the rest of the families” life revolves around them. Here especially when he is a millionaire.
He has to get a fair trial, and if he has raped young girls he has to pay the price for his cruelty.
The sad thing is if even after he is pronounced guilty his family will try to project his innocence , trying to make Indians believe that too. Thats for sure.
Sakala Appachu Debrass
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2:41 pm
As an Indian I would like to say I support Anand Jon a hundred percent. There have been many cases of celebrity’s being trapped into these games. What you have to understand that sometimes or most times you do not ask the age of a person even in normal conversation. Afterall a 17 year old (underage) looks the same as an 18 year old (legally mature). So the question is why are they going out of their way to harrass the gentleman in question. Is it a business deal, vindictive ex, or just some yellow paper journalist wanting to raise ratings of their magazine etc. What ever the cause or reason, the fact remains that there has been some wrong done somewhere, and that somebody needs to be brought to justice. I hope this is done soon, because the worst thing for the parents is a long drawn out melodramatic court case.
rani
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4:48 pm
anand mother has cheated so many families in india .she has made so many innocent women cry.Today she is facing the same.atleast hereafter she should realise that if she and her family cheats other then they are to suffer.i have seen all this and hence reporting.i cannot forget the pain the families have gone through.i hope she changes.if she was always with her son and not running after men in india.anand would be fine.feel sorry for annand not for the mother.
VM
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6:17 pm
Sakala,
His terms of probation back in 2003 mandated for him to avoid being with anyone under 18 without the presence of a responsible adult (Sanjana does not count).. That means the first question he needed to ask on meeting these woman was, how old are you. He basically found these young girls on my space etc and enticed them to him, where the age of young lady is generally written in plain english.
He was very methodological and that is why he got away with raping as many women as he did.
Here is the details of 2003
‘“Anand Jon had been charged with committing a lewd act on a child in 2003, according to the Los Angeles Times. The paper reported that he had pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct. He was ordered to undergo almost a year of sex therapy as a part of his three-year probated sentence. Another condition: that he have no contact with any person under age 18 without the presence of a “responsible
Kiran
019
7:36 pm
there is so much jealousy and whoever this rani person is-seems more of a personal anger situation towards the mother.the tjd if you really did hang out with aj and call him your friend-well friends like you are all a person needs. i have worked with aj as a model and been there for shows and events-
i did check into the 2003 situation as well– and before you people post irrelevant posts what you are writing is totally untrue. verify and post. the dallas observer article again is not factual at all it was a fabricated story written by a FAMILY FRIEND of the girls. go to http://www.myspace.com and check the wesupportanandjon on myspace . having done so and since ive been following up on this there is clear vindictive manipulation and conspiracy and people like rani and tjd get a life instead of trying to destroy others.
sam
020
7:48 pm
Anand Jon seeks justice
Friday, 12.14.2007, 02:07am
LOS ANGELES: Anand Jon has been in jail now for almost six months. In court on December 6, the Deputy District Attorney made a motion to increase bail. She has made this same motion numerous times in the past.
DDA admits no violence, weapons, injuries in Anand Jon Case
Wednesday, 11.14.2007, 01:30am
LOS ANGELES: The crowd inside the courtroom went beyond just friends and family. The Anand Jon bail hearing on Wednesday, Nov 7 included community leaders, celebrities, activists, fashion and entertainment insiders, and of course journalists. The air was heavy with anticipation. The judge seemed in a decent mood. He acknowledged receipt of all the motions filed by prosecution and defense.
Anand Jon pleads not guilty
Wednesday, 10.31.2007, 03:25am
LOS ANGELES: The strength in fashion designer Anand Jon’s voice was crystal clear when Judge David S. Wesley asked “How do you plead?
pardeed kumar
021
7:56 pm
Defamation sue Dallas Observer for Defamation media that is reporting without facts
Dude- give the guy a break.
Let the court decide but why judge before
Innocent till there is a trial and then let there be a verdict, not through court of public opinion based on media that does not seem to be giving factual statements but misguiding the public by writing sexually perverted articles -Dallas Observer should be sued for defamation
VM
022
8:51 pm
To all,
I think the most important thing that should come out of this should be:
1. Be ware sexual predators. Regardless of what indurstry you work in or how powerful you are - avoid exposure at any cost. Days are gone when rich and powerful could silence anyone. When it comes to sexual misconduct you go to jail before they prove you guilty if the victim comes up with a credible story (according to prosecuting attorney)
2. To the females who feel pressured .. make sure you document the pervert as much as possible. Consider audio or video taping the guys pervert advances. Pedophiles are some of the sweetest and smartest people in the world.
Sam - Please indicate source of all those quotes. Are they all from same writer for India post or are they from different media?
Pardeep
You can not sue a new paper for defamation for reporting a story. That is their job. I think it did a wondeful job of explaining from the victim’s point of view as to how some one can keep quiet for five years or go to India after she is raped. To believe it or not is left to the readers.
Kiran - My space page created for support of Anand will only put the spin to make him look innnocent.
To all who have information to prove that following is not the fact please post it here for the benefit of all
“Anand Jon had been charged with committing a lewd act on a child in 2003, according to the Los Angeles Times. The paper reported that he had pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct. He was ordered to undergo almost a year of sex therapy as a part of his three-year probated sentence. Another condition: that he have no contact with any person under age 18 without the presence of a “responsible
Chris
023
9:14 pm
Anand Jon is a seriel rapist, and a child predator. He needs treatment. Why should normal human beings support such a predator? India and Indians should keep away from this , US media is more trustworthy than ours. So Anand Jon should rot in hell and his family shouldnt be trusted in this as they are supporting a criminal here. His sister should also be arrested , some truths would be revealed. India should treat him like Dawood Ibrahim . Anand John has destroyed many young kids. Will you trust sending your kids to his home?
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
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9:20 pm
VM- YOU ARE ONE OF THE CONSPIRATORS. THIS IS SO PERSONAL AND YOU SEEM TO BE UNDULY WRITING LIES- MOST OF YOUR POSTINGS ARE NOT TRUE- WE HAVE CHECKED WITH LEGAL PEOPLE BACK IN THE US.
WE ARE GOING TO INVESTIGATE YOU- GIVE YOUR REAL NAME- THE INVESTIGATORS ARE GOING TO CHECK YOU AND WHAT YOUR ROLE IN THIS CONSPIRACY IS
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
025
9:39 pm
IF ANYONE HAS INFORMATION EMAIL THE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM1@GMAIL.COM
THE CONSPIRATORS BEHIND THIS WILL BE CAUGHT AND PUNISHED
SAM
026
9:41 pm
chris-are you a sexual predator- calling someone does not make him one-let the trial prove
till then stop your clearly jealous vindictive comments
VM
027
9:43 pm
Hey investigative team,
Why don’t you post the name and contact of your legal team in USA. I would be happy to contact them.
By the way I am sure you know that attorney and investigators do ask you to pay in advance. So mail them a check for retainer.
By the way if you have so much money, would it not be better spent in donating to save Anand Jon fund. They guy has been granted a bail for more than a month and still not out because they have not posted the bail.
Peace
kiran
028
9:59 pm
tjd,vm,chris– how can you lie blatantly
you seem to be part of the group to get and frame anand jon
i have checked a lot of the facts- you are trying to frame an innocent man
what goes around comes around-by doing this to a family believe me the law of karma will catch up to you and before you know this might be you and your family-stop trying to frame someone and lying to destroy lives
VM
029
10:01 pm
Based on the published news article he has been pleaded no contest to
-Lewd behavior
-His attorney did not deny the sexual encounter but that it was not without consent.
- Fraud: they need to investigate if there is any truth to the fact that he changed other designer’s label off and placed his own.
- Contributing to delinquency of minor - if he did supply alcohol to person under 21 that is a crime.
Those of you who are supporting Anand have failed to pinpoint any evidence you may have to the contrary.
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
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10:04 pm
DO OBLIGE AND IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE GUTS TO EMAIL YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET YOU
INVESTIGATIVETEAM1@GMAIL.COM
LEGAL TEAM
MARKS AND BROOKLIER
CONTACT 310-772-2287
VM
031
10:12 pm
Kiran
You are absolutely right! What goes around comes around. All the pain those helpless young aspiring models must have felt for years is now being felt by Anand and his family and friends.
The law of Karma had definitely caught up with Anand.
You claim to have checked a lot of facts .. what are they please enlighten the reast of this blog readers.
By the way I read somewhere that the court date was Jan 30, 2008 but am not able to find any news on that. Does anyone including Kiran or Investigative team has any information?
kiran
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10:19 pm
vm -all thats published aint right and i know that most articles that are out are based on the conspirators and prosecution. the family never spoke out nor did they correct anything .are you kidding even the attorney ronald richards statements were misquoted i did verify
so please check facts again before you rant and rave
kiran
033
10:21 pm
vm post your real name and contact im sure the investigators would love to investigate you–
investigative team here is definitely one of the conspirators- please make sure you follow up and investigate this vm person right away
VM
034
10:23 pm
there is no mention of that company in any of the search engine,
where is it located? what is their web site or is it a mom and pop operation?
VM
035
10:24 pm
Did attorney go on the record to dispute the statement on any of the print media?
kiran
036
10:24 pm
you cant even have the guts to write your name- post your real name and contact information instead of hiding behind aliases and trying to defame and destroy families . its evil people like you that give mankind a bad name
Uri
037
10:40 pm
Is she EVER going acknowledge what EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS HIM KNOWS?
He slept with underaged girls often. He always had young women around him. He even plead out of a similar charge years ago. Who is she kidding?
I’d have more sympathy if she got real and admitted that this guy habitually has sex with his models (some underaged, which he knew) but he didn’t actually rape them. At the end of the day whether he’s a rapist or simply an arrogant jerk (which most people who know him know he was when it came to anybody who weren’t his best friends or family), if they would stop painting him as a saint that’d be great. I want to be on his side that it’s a conspiracy and a horrible one, but let’s get real. Anand loves the young women. Look, If they did a rape kit, WHETHER positive or negative, then he obviously DID at least have sex with her. And if she was underaged, that is ILLEGAL.
Chalk it up to karma. He played with fire. Now he’s getting burned. It sucks, but it’s via his own doing cuz of his actions for many years.
djt
038
11:05 pm
Kiran,
In my presence he treated his models like servants, degrading them, shouting at them. Everytime he came into town he had a new entourage. The only time he would pay the bill if we went to” all you can eat buffet” when he was at my home he would take over the master bedroom and have several local aspiring young models just show up and he never asked my permission for any extra guests. Yes it got creepy. Over the years it got tiresome. One time a huge fight broke out in my presence and it was revealed that Anand got the model pregnant and he forced her to had it aborted. I’m sure that if there was a lot more that will come out if this goes to trial. What goes around comes around!
sam
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11:09 pm
URI- NOT UNDERAGE- just check facts again–all of you are so quick to jump to wrong conclusions. the woman in question was definitely not underage and the rape kit the only one in the entire case was negative
how can people be so misguided
half knowledge is dangerous so do not judge- let the guy be given a fair trial as everyone is entitled to-not a trial by media or by public opinion
having women around is not a crime and so far there is no factual or material evidence that there was even sex involved not with these complaining women nor underage women
arrogant jerk does not make anyone a rapist
Kiran
040
11:14 pm
djt-who are you and if you really had aj stay with you–where?again why are you hiding behind aliases- if you really knew him give your real name-
again why are you not revealing your real name
eating a buffet is a crime
there was a junkie vikas malhotra who broke into their house and looted do you even know this character and how he is involved
who did you know?
george
041
11:42 pm
Hi Djt,
DJT, As a concerned individual you should give evidence in the trial. He may be a family friend, but justice has to be served. Or you can try to enter into a deal with sanjana for not speaking, Whichever works. (better than keeping quiet)
Remember in the SAbhnani case it was Deoborh the emloyee who worked for them who came forward with truth. She had everything in the world to lose, yet she had a conscience. In that case I have heard Indiands say ridiculous things like those poor maids were cutting themselves as part of a scheme!It seems the similar pattern of thinking in Anand’s case too.
Chris
042
12:12 am
I think sanjana john may also be one of his victims. who knows whther his mother was also safe? It is pathetic to see morons trying to save a serial rapist and trying to ceate a fund for this!! How will this fund be used - provide it to the innocent victims and get their case nullified?
Monica
043
12:25 am
the support anand jon myspace is such a joke.
they add celebrities myspaces (who put someone else in charge and will accept any friend request), put them as a top friend and pretend they’re supporting anand jon - they even put janice dickenson up who publicly admitted to wanting to kick his butt for doing this to models! and all the comments are advertisements and ” thank you for the add what’s up” from randomly added people - haha, I wouldn’t advertise that myspace anywhere if I were you (you, who ever made it)
Come on, even the petition is signed by people who think it’s a joke and want him to be locked up. There are only a handful of supporters out there - most family and friends, because the masses will never be seen sticking up for a rapist.
Truth is, he committed crimes by sleeping with underage girls in The US, whether it was consensual or not. He will be locked up in jail for this no matter what - conspiracy or not.
Sanjana and her team can make up all the pretty conspiracy stories they want, but the US justice system will punish him for his crimes.
sam
044
12:37 am
innocent till proven guilty
why are you jumping to conclusions-lets await trial till anyone can decide
Anand Jon is an individual accused of something by a group of people who came forth years later when his company got funded
why were they waiting to see money and being with him
this whole case is too crazy so lets give him a fair trial till then hold onto your judgement
woke
045
12:48 am
No personal attacks please. We hate to moderate comments, but some of them here where definitely were unwarranted.
djt
046
1:10 am
The comunications between us has been one sided for 5-6 years now. He was the one calling me, not visa versa. I haven’t taken any calls from the family since this whole ordeal began, nor have I tried or been contacted by the police. All I’m saying is that I’ve seen alot over the years. If you look at each incident separately like I did, you thought it was the business, atmosphere, that he was in. But once you put everything together, and then fit with the other peoples personal experience with this situation. It becomes very onimous. Again read the Dallas Observer article it was very accurate on how Anand operated. When this story broke out in March my gut reaction was oh my god it all makes sense now. I felt somewhat stupid that didn’t put the pieces together sooner. No wonder I was trying to distance myself from him.
Monica
047
1:43 am
I’m just sticking up for anyone who is offended by the parading on the streets for a possible rapist. Maybe he will be proven innocent right, who knows! It’s not the point.
All I’m saying is, look at the facts and not the stories fabricated from either side. To say that the girls waited until there was money involved and because he is ” brown” is just as judgmental as saying he’s guilty without looking at the facts. I, being a woman myself know how hard it must be for these girls, and sooo many rape victims NEVER speak out, so it’s no surprise to me that just now they feel secure, because they know they’re not alone.
Also, by the way, seen with my own two eyes, and learned by looking up the facts, this guy has no money at all. He never spends any money, and his company has not been funded yet, but was only up for CONSIDERATION - why is his team saying he got funded already?? I mean, good luck with that now.. no American business will lay their hands on the aj brand now.
Uri
048
2:06 am
Sam: So the girl who had the rape kit was an adult? Ok. First question then is, WHY would she go get a rape kit unless she felt she were raped? I’ve never heard of a woman going for a rape exam just for kicks. Negative or not, clearly she at least felt she’d been raped. So that answers Sanjana’s “Where are the 911 calls?” question.
Second, he slept with young models frequently. Everybody around him knows this. Ask anybody who knows him well who isn’t blood-related or relying on his money. If they are honest they will tell you this. This 17 year old girl from Dallas wasn’t in the industry. She wasn’t a promiscuous teen model from LA/NY willing to do anything for fame. She was a virgin from middle America who knew nothing of modeling. He sought HER out on Myspace, he made her big promises, and he slept with her after knowing her a very brief time. Forced or not, that is illegal. Seriously if Anan Jon and his family would at least ADMIT his habitual behavior then I would have more sympathy. They won’t admit to anything however. They perpetuate this FALSE image of him as some holy virtuous pure young man. The reality was he’s a 30 year old habitual womanizer and those “women” were almost always very young b/c they were the ones he could manipulate and get to follow him around like puppies. He clearly has a sexual addiction that he feeds via his position of self proclaimed (and over exaggerated I might add) “power”. Is he a rapist? Possibly not. Is he a grown man who’s negative and selfish actions have finally caught up with him? Absolutely.
I will gladly wait for the trial and hope the truth prevails. I don’t know if he raped any of these women. But I don’t doubt for a second that he did sleep with most if not all of them and so many more, and because some were underage at the time, that is worthy of criminal punishment, however “unfair” it may seem. That is the law. He’s lived in the US most of his life and is well-educated, he knows this. But out of arrogance and lack of self control, he ignored it. And that is ONLY on him.
Uri
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2:32 am
I’d like to add something. In response to “arrogant jerk doesn’t equal rapist”. I completely agree. However, being an “arrogant womanizing jerk” does put you in a position where eventually one of your many woman, or young girls, may finally get fed up with being used and being one of a hundred, and getting nothing in return. IF this is just a conspiracy, then he laid the foundation and built the house. They just moved into it.
As far as possible rape is concerned, if there’s common similarities in their stories then it’s likely not because they all met up online and memorized a plot (come on, get real), but rather that could be just how he operates. Most abusive individuals tend to repeat whatever behavior works. This has worked for him for years so of course their stories will be very similar to each other, as his actions were. Have some piggy-backed for revenge? Possibly. I have to admit though, believe some of them.
http://lockupanandjon.blogspot.com/
^Take this example. She is not one of the people on the official victim list and she has nothing to gain. Not money nor popularity, as she’s remaining anonymous publicly but has talked with police privately to help. Her story reads exactly like the tale of someone truly in pain from what she’s had to endure at the hands of Anand Jon. I’d like to get some thoughts on her blog? Something other than assuming A.J. is innocent and she is a lying whore that is. That argument by his family and lawyers is getting quite old and is incredibly arrogant and disrespectful, especially if there is even a fraction of a chance that any of these accusations are true.
vm
050
5:46 am
Here is a touching post by another of his victim …
Why I didn’t go to the police
One question people might have for us girls that were abused by this man, is why didn’t we speak out sooner. I can’t speak for anyone by myself, but I do know how I felt back then and why I didn’t go to the police.
First of all, I was young, inexperienced and a little naive. When he told me this (which was anything I felt uncomfortable with, sexual) was what people who love each other do (yes, he claimed he was madly in love with me), he was always so disappointed when I was uncomfortable, and put out the “if you don’t do it, I will leave you” card. He made me believe that I had no one, that the people in my life weren’t good enough for me, and that he was the only one I should give attention to. Naturally, all my friends thought he was a creep, old weird guy and didn’t understand why I was with him. He used this to his advantage and claimed they were just jealous I had a great guy like him - eventually I had no friends left.
I was new to New York City and knew no one but him. After the first rape incident, where I was literally crying and telling him I couldn’t do it, he just said “good girl”, and fell asleep. The next morning he did it again. I was so confused - this was someone that said he loved me, and I thought I loved him, so could this have been rape? I thought that he was right, this is something grown ups do, I should grow up and be a good girl like he wanted me to. I was confused for days, emotional and I didn’t know what to do. If I would have gone to the police, I wouldn’t have anywhere to go. I didn’t have enough money for a hotel or ticket back to home, so I felt like I was trapped. I didn’t have any friends left to consult, so I just stayed with him because he kept telling me how he loved me and would take care of me.
Another reason why I felt like I couldn’t go to the police, is because he made me write a letter back when I was 16, claiming I was 18 years old. This was for business purposes, he said, and I believed him. Of course, later I realized that he made me write this letter so if I would ever go to the police - he would show them the letter and tell them I lied to him and that he didn’t know I was only 16. Of course he knew.. he had no problem what so ever with the fact that he was 10 years older than me.
So there you have it - I was too weak to speak up. Two years later, I met another girl who was abused by him. We were talking about speaking up, to the press or police, but she bailed out and I was once again alone, with my story I couldn’t share with anyone, and decided to move on with my life. That’s what I did, until about half a year ago when I read online that he was put in jail. I cried for hours (tears of joy), because I realized I was not crazy, this really had happened, to me and so many other girls, and it was time to step up and go to the police. As I said earlier, I chose not to be involved with the court case, but when they need more information the police in LA knows how to contact me.
In my opinion, these girls must have felt so alone. They had no where to go, and after realizing what kind of person he really is, left him and moved on with their lives. It was not something I liked remembering for years, I rather forgot about it.. I thought who would believe a young girl from a small city like me.. I just felt like no one would listen, that I was alone in this and the best thing was to move on, and that’s what I did.
Kiran
051
6:34 am
counter post to Uri, Monica, djt,vm-look at the other side
Anand Jon is a celebrity fashion designer. It is alleged that he was inappropriate with some of the models that essentially wanted to “ride his coattails to success (New York Times, April 15 2007).
His defense team asserts that they are trumped up charges made by “wanna-be’s
Kiran
052
6:36 am
who framed Anand Jon plot came from john tucker must die
What motivates these young women? There have been many exposes about today’s progressive and aggressive culture. (Remember the movies Kids, Cruel Intentions and recently, John Tucker Must Die and even Ugly Betty. All these pieces contained manipulation in today’s youth). Look at Myspace. On these networking websites, these teens and young adults try to outdo each other through sex, drugs, violence, etc. Innocence in today’s youth has been replaced with manipulation, conniving and blackmail. Lying has gone beyond cheating on the math quiz and has moved to affecting real lives in a real world There have been too many people in the system that has been proven innocent too late (mostly due to DNA evidence. An innocent man spending one day incarcerated should not be tolerated (i.e. the Duke Rape case).)
Kiran
053
6:38 am
no 911/no hysterical calls–yeah you are right
This again is a total mystery and defies common sense. How come there were no 911 calls or no hysterical women running down the street screaming “Rape
Kiran
054
6:46 am
he has to be innocent and these have to be right if those reports are
LOS ANGELES: Much has been written about Anand Jon and the charges he faces. To the mainstream media his situation is just another story – a story where the gullible public is fed media handouts issued by the Beverly Hills District Attorney. To the media and the public it is one big circus – just another celebrity scandal. It is a different matter that a life is involved – the fate of which will affect many lives especially of a close knit family of three a mother, a sister and their beloved son/brother. The media too went through the routine of doing its stories – stories with the usual legal nitty-gritties. So far nobody has really talked about the real Anand Jon.
As an artist he was able to find work as a graphics artist. Between his work and school he would sleep maybe three to four hours a day. The dawn of 1994 saw Anand Jon at the Parsons School of Design pursuing a double major in graphic design and fashion design. He graduated in 1999 with top honors. Tim Gunn (now of Project Runway and Tim Gunn’s Guide to Style) then head of fashion at Parsons acclaimed him as an outstanding student.
Anand Jon led a much disciplined life. A family man at heart, he was studying for double majors and working to support his mother and sister. He also interned for designer Donna Karan. What most people do not know about Anand Jon is his commitment to charity. For the past five years the AIDS Awareness Tour with Miss Universe was started and backed by Anand Jon. He did not want any share of the limelight.
He also did charity events for AMFAR, an AIDS awareness program - where celebrities like Barbara Hershey, Iman and Inez Rivera lent their support. He also worked with American Cancer Society and the Audrey Hepburn Foundation for Children, CARE, AMBA for Tsunami victims, New Yorkers for Children, Darfur, Horseshoe Wildlife Foundation, to name a few.
He never smoked nor ever did drugs – a rare quality found in people in the fashion and glamour industry. He was totally focused on his career and whatever free time he got he spent it with his mother and sister.
Kiran
055
6:49 am
Witness Claims Designer Has Been Framed!
this was on TMZ
Posted Apr 6th 2007 7:29PM by TMZ Staff
Anand JonA business associate of Anand Jon, who was in Jon’s apartment the morning after Jon allegedly sexually assaulted a woman, tells TMZ that he saw the woman that morning, and nothing seemed wrong.
The man, who wished to remain anonymous, says he arrived at Jon’s apartment around 9:30 AM, and when he first saw the woman, she appeared to be in a “happy, giddy mood.” He claims that she took a shower, tried on three pairs of Anand’s jeans (and asked for a free pair), before leaving for lunch with other people who were at the apartment the night before.
Jon’s friend says that he spoke with law enforcement, but got the bum’s rush after “they didn’t get the answers they wanted from me.”
mehta
056
7:49 am
NEWS ITEM RELATED TO Candle Light Vigil Observed For Anand Jon .
ana singh
057
11:35 am
ANAND IS BEING EXPLOITED ,IT IS OUR DUTY TO SUPPORT HIM. I SUPPORT HIS INNOCENCE AND PRAY FOR HIS RELEASE,ANA SINGH
Shr
058
2:31 pm
The reason behind not complaining is explained by “accomodation syndrome” in young girls. Indians may say Indian girls may have that, but you have to understand young girls everywhere are the same.
ANand jon didnt do drugs, instead he seemed conquering underage girls , that seems to be his drug. He could pay with his money seems so cheap that wants the free forced enjoyment.
Thye problem is got to america so late only when he was 17, after seeing what was going on the fashion business in chennai , girls having to sleep around, he just thought he could do that in the great USA.The boy was mistaken and the two women who were depending on him for bread and butter did not teach him anything.
Kiren, the rape laws in India and US are completely different.We dont have laws which are just to be kept in paper. In India there have been lakhs of horrific rape cases where the accused go scott free. It is never going to change.
Shr
059
2:47 pm
I finally was able to get out of the land called India which has the culture described below. In my country the USA we dont treat women that way, the % of corruption is very low and there is dignity to every individual. I am not saying that Indians as individuls dont have that, but the Asian culture always lacked it.. When AJ gets a life term the souls of millions of girls who committed suicide after being raped in India , and the accusers go free will get some peace.
Indians when they come to US till they get the citizenship are very careful(they can get deported). After they should practise things like this that are Ok in the culture so that more souls get moksha.
SEE THE EXAMPLES OF HEART WRENCHING STORIES IN MY “MOther LAND”:)
The Suryanelli sex racket case where 36 people were sentenced by a special court was touted as a case of justice being delivered without delay. Now the Kerala high court has acquitted all but one of those sentenced. What impact will it have on other cases?
The high court’s Suryanelli verdict has sent shock waves throughout the state. It is not only anti-woman, but also inhuman. It was the only case which was executed by the investigating agency (the police) fairly well though there was an attempt to exonerate some politicians. The special judge also gave a strong verdict which enabled the girl and her parents to slowly come to terms with reality and face life. But the HC verdict has given a green signal to the sex mafia which is involved in trapping adolescent girls. The argument that the girl willingly submitted to rape is very clearly contradicted by the medical report which says the girl was suffering from painful pelvic infections when she was brought to the doctor. It was very clear that the innocent village girl brought up in a restrictive atmosphere had eloped with her lover longing for a happy married life. She was then repeatedly raped. She was terrorised and physically tortured by the accused. The verdict may become a precedent if there is no conscious attempt to make the judiciary gender sensitive and revert the verdict by appealing to the Supreme Court.
Why is it that people involved in sex crimes are seldom punished? Are our laws less supportive of the victims?
The accused in such cases are highly influential, both financially and politically. Whichever government comes to power, it is able to buy over and torpedo the investigation by influencing the political elite. Our laws are also less supportive and insist on very minute pieces of evidence like the age limit. If the victim is above 16, the law considers sexual assault as rape only when it is proved that the victim was unwilling. It is very difficult to prove such a thing because generally the victim doesn’t know the technicalities of the Evidence Act.
The judicial system has to take into consideration that more than 95% of rape cases are not reported fearing social ostracisation. A rape victim is always blamed for ‘attracting’ rape, no such stigma attaches to the rapist. In other words, the victim is victimised even by the justice delivery system and then the victim has to carry the stigma of rape throughout her life. The judicial system puts the victim and her tormentor on an equal plane. And even if there are laws protecting women’s rights, judges who are insensitive to women’s issues can ruin a case. Gender sensitivity of the judicial system and individual judges is crucial and decisive in this matter.
What has been the response of the civil society including the mainstream political parties in the fight for justice?
The civil society is generally patriarchal in its thinking but in specific cases like the ice-cream parlour sex scandal to which Muslim League leader P K Kunhalikutty has been linked, it has reacted positively. In the Suryanelli case too, the reaction has been positive. But the silence of eminent cultural personalities is alarming. Civil society in Kerala is changing, but only slowly. Political parties, especially those of the Left, are now increasingly becoming aware of the need to fight these atrocities. But they also resort to opportunism especially when the issue hurts their interests.
The media — both visual and print — have played a positive role in bringing the facts behind the ice-cream parlour case and have supported the struggle. Though the media is controlled by big business, some flexibility is allowed by them for their own survival.
Are people sensitive to the plight of these girls?
Society is by and large very patriarchal in its outlook. The victim is always looked upon as a sexual object and a person of loose character. There is terrible hostility to accepting her as a normal human being. Political parties and the media highlight the issues for political advantage but rarely pursue the case until justice is delivered. This hostile atmosphere demoralises the victim and her supporters
Manas
060
2:53 pm
Everyone can easily see who the above “KIREN” is.:)
Sanjana says anand didnt get a green card because he wanted to be still indian. Truth is his green card is in the final stages. And how does everyone think Sanjana got her green card before Anand the talented one did.And the mother was too old to get one.
Need I say more of how it was..
chakky
061
4:46 pm
So many war of words for and against the topic. I see people trying to support and I see people trying to go against the person. I tried reading to the emotional messages from so many people and it felt nice to see people having so much personal opinion But many seem to be having fun trying to stress how close they are to these persons but never ready to reveal their true identities. Yet they say they know or assume to know the person to make their ravings more true.
Guys your opinions here makes no difference to Anand or the outcome of the case, I think Chacko did a good job to get a review from his sister.
The fact that her sister and mother wont be able to survive because Anand is not working is immaterial here, but I guess its just being stressed to get the humanitarian grounds. But there are people who even sit to tear those things apart as if it is a point of contention.
Many of you have put a lot of effort & time to read what the media has to say and also what Google can churn out, to read, understand and make your views on how you feel. Is it worth so much attention? If you can make a difference positively or negatively to this case, then its worth your efforts and time, but other than this, I only see people judging with prejudiced views and finding what they want for affirming their gut instincts on whether Anand is right or wrong and fighting with absolute strangers due to their conflicting views…
Chacko, it would be nice, if you could try to get an interview with one of the victims too just to get the other side. Also it would be nice if you could at the beginning or end of these interviews summarize the present state of the case and its proceedings. Helps make the article fuller to read..:)
SM
062
5:32 pm
DESIGNER WITCHHUNT: ANAND JON INDICTMENT (WITH SKEPTISISM)
Los Angeles, CA / October 4 2007 / TEN-Media
Anand Jon: Crucifying the Defendant before Trial
The Anand Jon injustice continues. For those of you catching up late, Anand Jon is a celebrity fashion designer. It is alleged that he was inappropriate with some of the models that essentially wanted to “ride his coattails to success [sic] ( New York Times, April 15 2007). His defense team asserts that they are trumped up charges made by “wanna-be’s” that are craving publicity, fame and potentially fortune. That may be true as one of the complainants in the case went on television the same day ( May 16, 2007) that the prosecutor relayed in court that “no sexual assault victim craves publicity”. So much for that argument. Apparently the DDA has never worked in the entertainment industry (or watched television).
What motivates these young women? There have been many exposes about today’s progressive and aggressive culture. (Remember the movies Kids, Cruel Intentions and recently, John Tucker Must Die and even Ugly Betty. All these pieces contained manipulation in today’s youth). Look at Myspace. On these networking websites, these teens and young adults try to outdo each other through sex, drugs, violence, etc. Innocence in today’s youth has been replaced with manipulation, conniving and blackmail. Lying has gone beyond cheating on the math quiz and has moved to affecting real lives in a real world with real consequences.
This trial has been an example of how the one-sided the criminal legal process is. As us journalists sit in the courtroom and watch this process we are reminded that the beginning of any criminal court proceeding leans toward the prosecution. They call the shots at the start of the process. The defense basically watches from the sidelines, interjecting occasionally. Many of us were looking forward to the preliminary hearing. That is where the defense team would have had the opportunity to cross examine the prosecution’s witnesses. However, curiously, the DA’s office chose to skip that part of the process. Why? Many of the attorneys contacted mentioned several words when pressed to react to this situation including unethical, suspicious and unscrupulous. Why? “…because it taints the process,” said one criminal defense attorney. “a good DA will use the prelim process to strengthen their case. They knock out the weak counts and proceed with strongest. If they skip that process they are worried that the entire case may get dismissed.” [which was witnessed firsthand on Sept 26 in another case in front of the same court.] “They are essentially throwing as much at the wall as they can, hoping that something will stick.”
Rushing to grand jury produces an indictment. The court proceeding is referred to as the arraignment. One defense attorney stated that the process is so one-sided that “you can indict a ham sandwich”. Why? Because there is no cross examination by the defense. The prosecution parades their witnesses in a closed door, secret proceeding in front of the “grand jury” consisting of 23 total. The decision (which is characteristically 99.9% in favour of continuing to the trial) is sealed and released at a later date, thus keeping the defense in the dark.
In this case the prosecution has added 11 new counts (not 57 as TMZ.com, Oct 4, 2007, reported – tmz.com also misrepresented much of what happened in court in that story and sensationalized the balance). Some of these counts are from 2001 and many from the same complainant. What is questionable about this is that only one girl came forward originally to accuse the designer. The rest jumped on the bandwagon after. (Why? See above) That first accuser, according to TMZ, woke up late, took a shower, tried on the designer’s clothes, wanted to go to lunch, etc. there were at least 4 witnesses to this, one that they interviewed. A simple call to a rape center or hotline will tell you that this is not the reaction that a rape victim has the next morning. She wants the hell out, not “…good morning, honey, what do you want to do today?”
Referring to the other counts, there are complainants with several identical allegations over a period of time. So are we to believe that if someone is assaulted they continue to be assaulted on different days at different times against their will, if it ever happened at all?
The prosecution would like us to believe that there are now 59 counts meaning 59 individual instances of alleged inappropriateness. And 20 alleged victims? However, when you look closer, you see that many of them are duplicated. (In fact, the prosecution pushed many of the girls to file in Dallas, as stated in the NY Times article referenced above. This was apparently done to increase bail elsewhere as the court has consistently stated that the bail from the Beverly Hills court would not be increased. The court also stated on the record that the defendant is not a flight risk, not a danger to society, and should be allowed to competently defend himself from the outside.)
The DDA, in an apparent “act of desperation” (again, the “throwing everything against the wall” theory or piling on charges so that the case looks bleak - to the defendant, the media and to the public) added more counts / charges from 2001. Are we expected to believe that all of this happened in different jurisdictions for years, without a single complaint filed? What about friends, family or counselors? If these alleged allegations apparently began in 2001, does it seem likely that no one ever complained?
Are we to believe that all these girls were assaulted by a man who lists his address on his website? And invites people into his living and working space? And lives 5 blocks away from the Beverly Hills police station?
Are we to believe that none of these complainants knew how to dial 911? Or knock on a neighbor’s door? It would seem that they didn’t need to because no crime was committed.
We are smarter then this. We have to be. Stop being spoon-fed. Start questioning. Look at it logically and objectively. I invite everyone out there to do there own due diligence and investigative probing. Don’t take things at face value.
We’ve all watched enough television to realize that reality reflects television just as television reflects reality. I believe that it’s ingrained in the minds of today’s youngsters. They forget that there is a reality that is a consequence of one’s actions. Instead of crucifying a person in the press, media, publications, etc. we should support the truth and hold the prosecution to the highest order of integrity.
There have been too many people in the system that has been proven innocent too late (mostly due to DNA evidence. An innocent man spending one day incarcerated should not be tolerated ( i.e. the Duke Rape case).) In this case, there is something suspicious going on and it is our job as journalists to search for the truth and report it objectively.
All of us know Anand has been framed. He is to undergo trial for crimes he never committed. Being an Indian citizen entangled in a hostile system , helpless, and only two women, his mother and sister, who are leaving no stone unturned in a tremendous effort to save him, the government and people of India should intercede to ensure that Anand’s case is re-investigated. There are doubts that the entire case is a conspiracy to destroy an Indian designer who was into big times in US of America. Racial discrimination is also evident in this episode. The case has to be re-investigated in the light of these aspects to clear all suspicion and to ensure that Anand gets justice.
To remain silent now is to give our assent to tyranny, brutality, untruth and miscarriage of justice. As citizens of India, we should persude our Government to act and also remind the Government and people of USA that the freedom and democratic values they proclaim to the world are at stake in this matter.
Let us discuss between us what we can and must do in this matter. Time is running out and Anand, his mother and his sister need all the support, help and succour we can offer.
One of the biggest fashion designer in NEw YORK … worked his ass out to Reach thr , minted money , made millions , but today 45 cases against him … just because he is an indian who made big out there ….. well well well 15 unknown woman coming up and puttin these shitty allegations on him and amercian government is so dumb that they cannot figure out that where were all these woman for 5 years , how can they even register such case …. well all you people reading this might be wondering how come i am writing all this because i know ANand bhaiya personally and the only way to get him out of this is all of us being together for him when he needs us the most …………….. tHE choICE iS uPtO u , as i say there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path
SM
063
5:34 pm
who’s ever read such an absurd article? what journalist writes such garbage? (it also seems to contradict itself) I think that the Dallas Observer article is a lie. it’s so absurd, could it have been planted? (what about this blog? I have my doubts.)
sorry, rape is such an easy excuse for girls these days; they don’t realize the consequences of lying. (look at the Duke University case.)
it seems that girls today want the easy way. they want to be famous and don’t care how (look at the paris hilton, kim kardashian success; girls look up to these “celebs” and don’t care how they get there. everyday life is not reality tv. if you doubt me turn on tyra, oprah or any of these types of talk shows. any day you’ll see young girls talking about sex and getting the guy. gosh, just look at the movie atonement. it’s not right when this stuff is exaggerated and worse yet made up.)
SM
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5:56 pm
The Dallas Observer Article - where is the proof for anything
when they are writing this did anyone verify or check with the both parties.its a one sided ridiculously manipulative article and they should be sued
who’s ever read such an absurd article? what journalist writes such garbage? (it also seems to contradict itself) I think that the Dallas Observer article is a lie. it’s so absurd, could it have been planted? (what about this blog? I have my doubts.)
sorry, rape is such an easy excuse for girls these days; they don’t realize the consequences of lying. (look at the Duke University case.)
it seems that girls today want the easy way. they want to be famous and don’t care how (look at the paris hilton, kim kardashian success; girls look up to these “celebs
sam
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6:49 pm
DNA evidence has directly exonerated 208 wrongly convicted people in U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/25/innocence.project/index.html
sam
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6:50 pm
The evidence that American women file more false allegations against men for rape and sexual assault is more credible and better documented than the evidence which convicted as many as a million innocent men
If the data on this page is correct, in just one year, 51,431 women nationwide filed rape charges against men which are known to be false, while 15,562 men were CONVICTED of rape.
How many women were CONVICTED for equally felonious behavior? Zero, even though it is probable that as many as 87,000 of 92,000 charges of rape are false!
This is why 87,303 of 92,490 or 95% of allegations of rape in the US in 1991 have a high likelihood of being false
THE BALD, BARE FACTS
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Survey results: 4 of 5 women believe a woman would tell a lie seriously enough to convict their husbands of a crime he didn’t commit.
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American men are accused of rape at a rate one thousand times greater than Greek, Italian or Japanese men.
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LIAR Bonnie Fisher at the Violence Against Women Office claims that American women are raped 1,678 TIMES as often as Indian, Japanese, Italian, or French women.
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Judge Francis McCarty established in 1965 the first victim compensation program in our nation’s two century history–citing a 3,775 year old Babylonian precedent.
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Countries with victim compensation programs have rape allegation rates up to 24 times higher than countries without them.
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Paul Craig Roberts: “My own investigations have led me to conclude that there are as many convictions based on false testimony as on real evidence. ”
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Barry Scheck: “… the number of exonerations [due to tests of DNA] far outnumbers the number of inclusions”.
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Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D., “Regarding this study, 41% (n= 45) of the total disposed rape cases (n= 109) were officially declared false during this 9-year period, that is, by the complainant’s admission that no rape had occurred and the charge, therefore, was false.”
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False allegations by women made American men one third of the men in the world behind bars
sam
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7:13 pm
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eae_1190201188&c=1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=459293&in_page_id=1770
Teenager’s rape lie prompted savage attack on an innocent man - but she walks free
http://www.truthinjustice.org/tjf.htm
http://www.pr-inside.com/us-convict-released-after-dna-proves-r388496.htm
Uri
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7:51 pm
“no 911/no hysterical calls–yeah you are right
This again is a total mystery and defies common sense. How come there were no 911 calls or no hysterical women running down the street screaming “Rape
Monica
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7:54 pm
Kiran.. please tell me you’re a man, not a woman. You’re so judgmental about women here in The US, it would hurt me to see that you’re a woman.. what kind of person looks at cheesy US teen movies and bases their feelings on girls here on that? Myself, doing really great in life now, was not always as strong as a teenager either. We’re talking about teenagers/young adults here! Imagine if a young girl came all the way to LA with high hopes, instead got raped by someone she trusted and had no where to go, or go home in shame.. yeah I’m sure she’d be spreading the news all over? No of course not! That’s not how it works. You should walk a mile in their shoes before judging them.. stop being so ignorant. I understand 100% why they only felt comfortable going to the police after someone else did - so they’d feel that they’re not alone anymore.
ps. Sam, why are you bringing up an 1991 percentage, and who are you to decide that all the cases where the man wasn’t convicted were false? How about there was lack of proof (which is usual in cases like this where it’s word against word) or something else helping the guy, not the woman? I doubt all these cases were false, but I rather believe some of them were false, and other cases there wasn’t enough proof so no one was convicted.. again, what’s up with judging American women like this? What did we ever do to you?
VM
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7:58 pm
There is no insight.
I agree with URI there seems to be no remorse on the part of family. Whenever our loved one is accused of any crime as a loyal friend and family we go to the rescue and our love makes us believe that somehow charges are all false and people accusing him/her are all out to get him. So as soon as he was arrested she has been very busy rallying support from large groups of admirers and supporters and family.
Anand with all his accomplished had aura of a guy who can do no wrong. So initially community wanted to come to gather and support him. After all “give him a fair trial” is like I love my mother! who can argue with that.
And I am all for getting him a fair trial.
The views expressed here in no way decreases chances of him getting a fair trial. I do not think US Justice system is going to tip one way or other if Indian government, celebrities or large desi population demonstrate in his support.
However over last 8-9 months people have noticed that Sanjana and her mom keeps repeating same talking points.
Have they ever addressed the issue of Lewd behavior to minor back in 2003.
Have they ever denied that girls under 21 had access to alcohol while they were with Anand.
Have they ever volunteered to take a lie detector test to acknowledge that they had no knowledge of such activities?
Why a 33 year old man does not have a wife or a steady girl friend? Could it be because he was so obscessed with young virgin teens that a girl friend/ wife would never put up with that?
Pedophilia is not so much about sex as it is about control. These people have trouble dealing with equally powerful and mature females so they can only get pleasure from very young females. It is a feeling of a total power over a victim. As you read the account in Dallas Observer that is what exactly was going on.
Pick up a victim from my space etc., entangle her with your publicity and power, get her under your clout, sodomize her, rape her and feed her bs of loving her and caring for her. Now she is totally confused. She can play totally normal looking female in front of the world but inside she is being eaten away. “I love you” part can confuse her even more, she can not decide to walk away or stay in degrading and submissive situation. She also knows that if she goes to police it is her word against a powerful man’s. Add a little bit of alcohol on board and she may even sign a paper pleading for sex.
I am sure on March 19, 2008 the court will hear more from both sides. Game of legal wrangling will begin. Verdict eventually will come with some people disappointed and others relieved. However this sad saga would have changed many a lives.
Anand his family and friends have gone thru a lot.
However looking back it was arrogance, lack of respect of others, lack of fear of law of the land etc might have contributed a lot to the entire episode.
I wish you all well.
Kiran, Sam, Investigative team etc your energy might be better spent in supporting Sanjana and her family at this time. Do some fund raiser and prayer.
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
VM
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8:02 pm
Monika
According to our investigative team Kiran is a man (29 year old ) . He lives in New York. He is a big fan of Anand.
VM
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8:09 pm
Sam,
” DNA evidence directly expnerates 208 rape convictions” - my brother, in all these cases rapes took place in dark of night and the victim could not easily identify the rapist. So they picked up guys from the closest description and DNA exonerated them.
Here there is no question as to who these girls were being raped, sodomized or being forced to perform oral sex on. It was bright light and Anand does not have an identical twin hiding somewhere. DNA has 0% chance of overturning this case.
sam
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8:11 pm
http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2006/09/lying-about-rape.html
Lying Duke Rape Accuser Deserves To Be Publicly Humiliated
By Dave Gibson (04/13/07)
The drunken stripper who lied and accused members of the Duke University Lacrosse Team of raping her is named Crystal Gail Mangum, she lives in Durham N.C. This woman of ill repute has not only brought great pain to the young men she falsely accused as well as to their families, but with her lies has also made it even more difficult for actual rape victims to come forward. For the angst to those boys and their parents and the potential harm to innocent rape victims she has caused, she now richly deserves to have every embarrassing bit of her meaningless life aired. In my own humble way, I will attempt to do just that.
We will begin to examine the sordid life of Crystal Gail Mangum upon her graduation from Hillside High School in Durham, N.C. in 1996. Two months after graduation, she went to the police and claimed that she had been raped three years earlier and identified her attackers as her boyfriend and two of his friends. Last year CNN reported that the police interviewed Mangum and asked her “to write a chronological-order statement for investigative purposes.”
She originally told police that her three alleged attackers had held her against her will, raped her, and threatened her life. However, she failed to follow up with police after the initial interview and simply dropped the charges.
Late in 1996, Mangum joined the U.S. Navy, signing on for an eight year enlistment. She began active duty in 1997. Though committed for eight years, the Navy discharged her in 1998.
In 1997 at age 19, she met and married a 33 year old illiterate man named Kenneth Nathaniel McNeill. Under Navy orders, her and her new husband moved to California, where she was assigned to the USS Mount Hood. While aboard the Mount Hood, she began a sexual affair with another sailor. She became pregnant as a result of the affair and eventually had another child with the sailor.
The U.S. Navy has refused to disclose the reason for Mangum’s abrupt discharge, which usually means that a deal was reached over some impropriety (Perhaps even a criminal act.).
Because of the extra-marital affair, Mangum and Kenneth McNeill became separated. On June 16, 1998, she filed charges against McNeill in which she claimed that he had taken her into the woods and threatened to kill her. A hearing on the matter was held on June 23, Mangum failed to appear in court to prove the charges and the complaint was dismissed.
After a string of low-wage jobs, Mangum decided to enter the glamorous world of stripping. She showed up one evening in 2002 at the Diamond Girls strip club in Durham. Club owner Larry Jones said that she was looking for a job and auditioned by giving lap dances to several men. Jones decided not to hire Mangum because she was “acting funny.”
One of the men to whom she entertained with a lap dance was a taxi driver. According to a Durham County Sheriff’s report: “As she was feeling him up and putting her hands in his pockets she removed the keys to his taxi cab, without him knowing. He [the cabbie] told her he would drive her home but needed to go to the restroom first. While in the restroom he was advised that she was driving off in his taxi cab.”
Durham County Deputies went looking for Mangum and when they tried to stop her, she sped away driving the wrong way on Highway U.S. 70. They quickly caught up with her in a wooded area, as deputies approached the vehicle she aimed the car at one of them and attempted to run him over. She was finally apprehended after hitting one of the sheriff’s cars. Mangum passed out while being questioned by deputies and was transported to Duke University Medical Center. Her blood alcohol level was .19 (more than twice the N.C. limit).
That incident resulted in Mangum’s conviction of the following charges:
-larceny
-speeding to elude arrest
-assault on a government official
-DUI
She received a sentence of three consecutive weekends in the Durham County Jail and two years probation.
Eventually, Mangum landed a job as a stripper at a club known as Platinum Pleasures. She was also working for an escort service called Bunny Hole Entertainment. After the Duke rape allegations, she told a reporter with The News and Observer that she went on dates with clients (johns) about three times a week.
While no DNA of any Duke Lacrosse player was found in Crystal Gail Mangum, the DNA of her boyfriend and habitual DUI offender Matthew Murchison was found. She also told police that she had engaged in sexual intercourse with two other men close to the time she erroneously reported the rape. The other two men were Jarriel Johnson of Raleigh, and Brian Taylor of Durham. They both worked as drivers for the escort service, taking her to parties and ‘dates.’
Mangum had the benefit of an unscrupulous district attorney in Mike Nifong, who took her lies and ran with them. Of course, Nifong was in the midst of a re-election campaign at the time she made her false allegations and her story was just what he needed to persuade black voters to return him to office. The case brought national attention to Nifong and stirred-up racial tensions. Race-baiters Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton both joined in the public persecution of the Duke students, even the thugs >from the Black Panthers came to town looking for trouble.
Fortunately, as the truth has prevailed Mike Nifong is now under investigation and is likely to be disbarred for his role in the case. Also, the “Durham Dirtbag” as talk show host Michael Savage has so aptly named her has been discovered to be a fraud and will now have to seek another way to pay her bills, other than suing rich white kids.
Unfortunately, due to Mangum’s false allegations, innocent women will suffer, as sexual assaults continue to be the most under-reported crime. Victims already feel humiliated and are often hesitant to risk further character attacks from black-hearted criminal defense attorneys and usually never report the heinous crime. Mangum’s selfish actions will now make the very painful process of coming forward to prosecute attackers even more difficult.
Crystal Gail Mangum is nothing more than a low-life swine (My apologies to pigs everywhere!) and deserves all of the scorn an entire nation can deliver upon her. She does not deserve to have a moment’s peace!
VM
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8:18 pm
Great point by Monika,
Look at Ellen Degeneres and Oprah Windfrey….women who waited years to publicly come forward about their abuse and rapes. And these are rich and powerful women. You’re talking about young, non-famous, non-wealthy girls and women in this scenario. Perhaps finally hearing word of others coming forward gave them the bravery they needed. Or perhaps, as Sanjana, Anand, and you all would would have us believe….they are all a bunch of money-hungry lying little sluts who just want revenge because some no-name mediocre designer (who lived off of the reputations of the celebrities around him) said they’d become famous, and they never did.
I think if he comes out of this one Anand need to read the biography of Michael Jackson. This will sober him down. And hang a picture of Michael in every room in his house and studio to constantly remind him.
Good luck Anand.
sam
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8:18 pm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20070119/ai_n17152753
Best-selling author admits lying about rape allegation
Independent, The (London), Jan 19, 2007 by Genevieve Roberts
Student charged after lying about rape
deepak
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8:18 pm
hindi and english shayre
sam
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8:19 pm
So we have a serial liar. About rape (because of there is no need for evidence in this country), enables women to get men thrown in prison on a whim.
The systems’ assumption of woman-innocent and man-guilty is so biased that even in the event of evidence proving false allegations, the courts still protect the identity of the woman (who is a criminal, guilty of perjury at the least) they escape any form of punishment, the most being a caution, and that’s for wasting police time, not the false allegation.
As always, the article focuses on how terrible rape is, (and doesn’t mention the terrible act of lying about rape and its effects on the men falsely accused.)
Rape is a repulsive crime. It requires substantial punishment. - Sir Igor Judge
That’s nice. So what about substantial punishment for false allegations? Guess not. I mean, the woman must be a victim of something right?
Let me tell you something. Women LIE ABOUT RAPE. I speak about wanting equality between the sexes. I only mean that in regards to law. Everything else can work itself out.
False allegation studies, support sites. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6
How did the system grow to become so misandric?
Simple, it is a reflection of societies attitudes in general. You know, men are useless, we’re all rapists, child molesters etc. Especially if a woman says so, because they never lie. They’re sugar and spice!
Women that lie about rape are SCUM. Women that lie about abuse are SCUM. Women who say ‘all men are rapists’ are SCUM.
When people tell me that being anti-feminist means I hate women, it just shows their boundless ignorance of the subject. I don’t hate women. I hate the attitude towards men and boys, and I hate this biased system.
Feminism is alive and kicking in the government. Feminists claim to speak for all women. (Women rarely disagree with feminism because of the benefits they gain from it, which makes them complicit in my view.) The government, wanting to pander to the female vote, take these feminists on board in the hope of appealing to these women. Once there they use their position to push their agenda. Which is marginalising men and masculinity and giving women more benefits and less responsibility. Oh, and encouraging them to reject families and put off having babies.
Get it? Or will you only get it when it happens to you?
deepak
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8:20 pm
hindi movies
sam
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8:22 pm
She lies about rape, and it concerns her marriage ending and not wanting to lose assets or have her lifestyle change no less…
Rape for blackmail (http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/6497918p-7448998c.html)
Could we imagine what would have happened to these men if the investigators hadn’t had a routine meeting?
What does she get for attempting to have multiple men blackmailed, threatened, extorted, etc… a year in jail.
The boyfriend who helped her gets two years for half the number of convictions and for “assisting her.”
I was depressed, so it’s okay… (http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/01/19/nrape19.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/01/19/ixhome.html)
She made up the rape because she was upset at having been unfaithful for the first time. “It was a depressed, miserable and confused state of mind that produced one lie after another,” he said.
Renouf had been ostracised by her family, her marriage was over and she had been spat at in the street.
What do you think could be done to prevent these sorts of issues in the future? Isn’t it frightening to consider for example that in the second case the woman’s prior sexual history or even a history of accusations cannot often be considered? It was likely a coincidental meeting that happened to stop the suffering all those men were likely to endure?
I have a personal example to now relate from within the family. I have a sister in law that is a bit of a head case. She was fired from the LAPD after threatening to murder me. (fun I know) She also claimed she was going to make false allegations against me. Me being a teacher, you can understand that I was a bit worried about this. Well since I reported her actions against me in a timely manner (I didn’t wait until the next morning/day for example, it helped in the investigation and she was fired from the department for this and several other corrupt actions.
She has a daughter who has a child from her boyfriend. The boyfriend is on parole for a drug violation. This sister in law made up a rape story and the boyfriend has had to sit in jail for about 2 weeks while they investigate it. It is much like these stories in that not only did the rape occur, the claimed rapist was in another state during the time of the claimed rape, but since it involves multiple state police departments, etc. it takes a bit longer and hence he has been in jail for two weeks.
Fun huh? Hope it never happens to you….
And for the clueless among us, again I haven’t had any charges lodged against me, either with rape nor am I divorced, getting divorced, nor having child custody issues.
:rolleyes: I just look up these issues when I encounter friends or family who do have them since the stories are pretty unbelievable sometimes.
sam
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8:23 pm
Sheriff’s Office: Woman lied about rape
posted by John A. Cutter on Mar 3, 2006 2:48:31 PM
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The Orange Sheriff’’s Office just announced that it has arrested the woman who claimed she was raped by several men who work at Walt Disney World. They say the woman made up the story, and that the sex was consensual. She is being charged with making a false police report. The Sheriff’s Office news release about the arrest is below:
Note: An earlier version had an incorrect first name for “elisabet sunde,” based on information we got from authorities.
Investigation determines gang rape report to be bogus
Complainant arrested for filing a false police report
On February 26, 2006 the Orange County Sheriff’s Office responded to a report of an alleged sexual battery involving multiple suspects. Elisabet Sunde, 26, Gables Commons Drive, told investigators that she was approached by five or six “French men” in her apartment complex at approximately 4:00 AM on February 26. Ms. Sunde stated the men accosted her against her will, physically (and against her will) carried her to their apartment where she was held down and sexually battered by at least four men.
Ms. Sunde stated she returned to her apartment some time after 5:00 AM after the alleged assault(s) and ultimately went to work. She did not report the incident to the Sheriff’s Office until about 4:52 PM after returning to her apartment after her work day.
After a week-long investigation Orange County Sex Crimes Investigator, Det. Phillip Graves, has determined that Ms. Sunde’s account of the incident was not factual and that the sexual encounter(s) were in fact consensual. The suspects in the alleged attacks were cooperative with the investigation from its onset to the point of providing a video tape of the incident which helped corroborate their account of the incident.
Based on information obtained from interviews with the suspects and alleged victim in this case Det. Graves has arrested Ms. Sunde for filing a false police report. She was booked into the Orange County jail this afternoon for violating Florida State Statutes 837.05(1) and 837.06; False Reports to a Law Enforcement Officer and False Official Statements (first and second degree misdemeanor). Ms. Sunde was also in possession of a small amount of marijuana at the time of her arrest and was subsequently charged with possession of marijuana.
sam
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8:26 pm
women making false accusations for the sake of making money off the famous. Far too many of these women are destroying good men while making themselves out as the victim. The penalties for these women are far to low, and do not reflect the price the men pay for being accused.
http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp?StoryID=20011033
Women Who Lie About Rape
by Delores Z Williams
An article called Black Men, Rape and Money spelled out at least three cases of High Dollar, “He said, she said.” Some readers made it a racial issue, and to a degree it is, but more it was about women lying for profit and being able to use the civil courts to pay them, even though they refuse to file charges in criminal courts or have proof of a crime.
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Lawyers tell their famous clients to settle suits just to avoid anything bad coming out. Good attorneys for the accused should go after these women if the allegations are false. Why pay people who are obviously mentally ill or opportunist for lying? What is to discourage them from continuing with that pattern of accusing for profit or keep others from doing it?
Let’s face it, rapists deserve prison not just empty pockets, and to be honest, women who fail to file charges are making it easier for real rapist to rape other women, but the law should not allow innocent men to have their names dragged through the mud by some person who they may not have raped. In the case of Kobe Bryant the prosecution was forced to drop their case when Katelyn Faber (accuser) realized it would be revealed that she was promiscuous, egged him on, and was mentally ill to the point of previous suicide attempts, and refused to testify. Andrea Constand (Bill Cosby Accuser) waited a year, knowing full well that it could never be proven. The District Attorney even doubted her credibility, since she had a habit of calling his home after the alleged event. But there is always an ambulance chaser that finds these women and encourages them to pursue financial gain for their unsubstantiated claims.
In the Bill Cosby case, women are coming out of the woodwork, and in the end, they will not receive a dime. Some of them even refuse to give their name. All claim he “almost” raped them. He drugged them, but somehow they always managed to escape. Ask any woman who has ever been given a date rape drug, such as Rohypnol, GHB, and alcohol, and she will tell you they couldn’t get away. Many did not even remember the event.
False Accuser’s should be charged and sued by the victim of their lies. Even some women’s advocates recognize that one in four claims of rape are false. These claims waste valuable police time, costs for attorneys, and in some cases, an accused person’s reputation.
The most noted reason for making false claims were shame and revenge, as evidenced by the following women who were charged with filing a false rape claim.
Julie Renouf, 34, was jailed for six months after admitting that she falsely accused the man of rape because she was ashamed at having betrayed her husband. The investigation wasted more than 2,000 hours of police time and led to the man being questioned for 15 hours. ( Times, The ( United Kingdom ), Jan 19, 2002 )
A WOMAN who accused her defense lawyer of rape after she was convicted of falsely accusing a female solicitor of sexual misconduct was jailed for nine months. ( Times, The ( United Kingdom ), Aug 02, 2003 )
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A former stripper who made up a gang-rape accusation against some Dallas Cowboys was charged by police with filing a false police report. She was given 90 days in jail and a $1500 fine.
The problem with rape allegations is that the accuser is shielded for the most part, while the accused is picked apart by the media. He has to spend time defending himself from someone who will be instantly believed because she is a woman, and some in society love to punish the famous for their success by bringing them down. The price he pays for a false accusation goes far beyond what the accuser will ever have to endure. He could lose sponsors, his job, and most importantly, his reputation. How will an apology ever get those things back, and how will it erase the accusation from the mind of the millions who will hear of it?
In reality, the price the women pay for falsely accusing someone of rape is too low. They should serve an amount of time equal to the time the accused would have been in jail for the accusation. Liars need deterrents or they will continue destroying innocent men with their lies.
In conclusion, there is no secret that rape is a huge problem around the world, but the problem should not be compounded by women making false accusations for the sake of making money off the famous. Far too many of these women are destroying good men while making themselves out as the victim. The penalties for these women are far to low, and do not reflect the price the men pay for being accused.
Monica
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8:29 pm
Sam,
do you want me and others to start posting news articles relating to cases where the guy was accused of rape and locked up in prison for a long time? God knows there are tons of them, much more than this one case you keep bringing up. We know about the Duke case. There is no proof that the case has anything to do with the aj case, so you’re wasting your time posting these articles, just as I’d be wasting my time looking online for cases where the girls were proven right.
It’s an interesting case for sure, but I think I have spoken my mind for now, and should be focusing on my work
One side here seems to be smart people who think and might know aj personally and have seen his tactics, and the other side seems to be 2/3 persons close to aj convinced he’s innocent (and I get that, I really do, esp. if he’s your family). But neither sides will convince the other. Those who believe in his innocence will probably still do so even after he gets a life sentence or similar.
I will google the case around March 19 for updates, should be interesting!
VM
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8:30 pm
Sam I am not sure how drunken strippers accusing Duke Lacross team is giving you consolation in the case of Anand.
Here are teen age girls who are actively scouted from models.com, enticed by Anand and company. Took into confidence and raped by him. The main weakness of the case is lack of physical evidence which I am sure Anand’s attorney will try to argue. They will also try to destroy credibility of accusers. However with all the publicity do not count out last minuted witness who can destroy Anand’s credibility. The police will also try to have one of his close associate describe as to how they picked these girls from models.com.
I am sure many of these cases will fall apart. But prosecutors will use only the strongest ones and they have plenty to pick from.
Credibility of witness, ability to testify under pressure and Psychologist’s testimony will play pivotal role.
Do not get too excited by those stripper being punished - there is a big difference between professional strippers and innocent teenagers.
sam
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8:34 pm
Research Shows False Accusations Of Rape Common
By Glenn Sacks
*Co-authored by Marc Angelucci and Glenn Sacks
Despite its many painful and unseemly aspects, the Kobe Bryant rape case and the media storm surrounding it have drawn attention to a severely neglected problem: false rape accusations.
In her recent “Daily Journalâ€
Saurabh Gupta
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8:49 pm
People think Jon’s got 100 odd allegations from over 30 girls,so how can he not be a rapist,molestor,watever but start thinkin why have they put all these allegations on him.Being such a big celeb why will he rape anyone.Its just that how can an asian buy a house in the beverly hills.So basicaly for us asians n brown skin people if we become successfull in the USA we will also be stuck in some allegation involving some bullshit.rather would not ever think of become big and successfull.We do need to make a stand and fight for this injustice,could happen with anyone just cause we arent white.
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
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8:55 pm
Contact us if you really have anything to other in this case instead of baseless blogging
If you are really involved or know anything call the attorneys
Marks and Brooklier-310-772-2287 or our email
investigative team
| Balu |
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9:05 pm
@INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
The blogging wasn’t baseless or senseless, many comments were though!
Monica
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9:06 pm
Wow, what a professional investigative team you are, posting those all these msgs online. Are these posts actually written from an LA ip address or from India? Anyway, good luck representing this guy.
Thank you VM and Uri for your insight! Bye people, see you on March 19!
VM
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9:37 pm
good try investigative team.
Why would any one with relevant information contact you???
If you have any information regards this case you need to contact Los Angeles police Department they are the official in charge of the investigation.
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
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9:55 pm
March 19 you definitely do not have the right information
INVESTIGATIVE TEAM
091
10:05 pm
Both sides investigate and if you are making claims please show facts otherwise they are baseless and you are misleading people
Uri
092
10:23 pm
No one knows the truth, not even his closest friends and family, despite how much they profess to. Only he and the accusers know the truth. It’s a case of he said vs she said (x30). You can post as many article on cases of false rape accusations all you want Sam. I could post a million times more on cases where rape did actually occur.
Either way he could be just as manipulative a liar as they could be. Someone is innocent here and someone is guilty. Who knows which side. We all have to remember that. And the judicial system isn’t a mind reader. It relies on games (sometimes unfair). It’s unfortunate but that’s just how it is. No one on either side should be so sure he is innocent or guilty.
Some of these accusations seem embellished and fishy, but some seem legitimate and frighteningly real. While I can admit that he could be innocent, it seems others refuse to admit that he could be guilty.
Kiran
093
10:42 pm
Innocent until proven proven guilty we all agree and let us just wait and give the person a fair chance to defend.
Manas
094
11:38 pm
Looking forward to the rape trial. When does it start?
Although I have never been raped, this case involving an indian will bring back memories of the thousands of Indian teenagers raped and thrown aside.Indians who have some humaneness in them should watch the trials in US and compare it to the barbaric India.
AND, why are Indian men not raping as much in US.? The law is so strict they know they cant get out of it alone.
Interesting
095
12:41 am
Uri, Although I would truly like to imagine that Anand is innocent, I can completely appreciate your point of view. We may not agree on all points, however, you seem to be one of the few commenters who remain objective here and I really thank you for it.
While we all may have different opinions, it is possible to remain civilized and maintain some level of class. We all are passionate about our beliefs in this case - nothing is going to be proven about the AJ case in the commenting section of an e-zine. We are not the judge or jury (thank GOD). It is not our responsibility to decide anyone’s fate.
Both sides have their truths I am sure. None of us are judge or jury. Let’s wait for the trial and enough with the childish bickering. Nothing is going to be accomplished in any forum or online journal etc… Threatening to investigate each other back and forth does not help anyone that we may feel is a victim etc… The facts are the facts - let the courts decide what the truth is.
PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN ,FINALLY
096
12:58 am
GOD BLESS THE USA>
THANK GOD I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT OF BARBARIC INDIA, EVEN IF IT MEANT SPENDING MILLIONS TO GET HERE AND GIVING UP EVERYTHING BACK IN INDIA.
SAD TO SEE THE FOREIGNERS HERE SLOWLY BRINGING IN CORRUPTION AND DISRESPECT FOR WOMEN.
PROUD TO BE INDIAN FOREVER
097
1:20 am
yeah this is great only when the system there fails you will you realize how blesses you are to be Indian-Our culture, our values and most of all or integrity.
guess you have forgotten these values
Uri
098
2:15 am
As a friend of a friend, I hope he is innocent of rape charges as well. Unfortunately my gut tells me based on what I do know, that there’s at least a small possibility it could be true, and that’s horrible to have to think. And I know a lot of people who know him closely are reanalyzing everything they thought they knew as well. It’s all very tragic from any angle you view it.
Yes I agree bickering amongst ourselves solves nothing. All we can do now is await the outcome. One thing I don’t know is the trial date. Perhaps someone could inform us as to when that is, as I am interested in following this case closely.
anirudh
099
5:03 pm
i know about the case… n it hurts whenever i see this or think about it .. i m an indian but not as an indian but as a human being ..just 4 mankinds sake i want anand jon to get free as soon as possible… he is innocent … and i m 100 percent sure about it… i m ready to loose anything if that guy is proved guilty.. but wat about 8 months of his life gone because of sum fame seeking gurls…. as sanjana says there was no 911 call and one rape kit whch came out negative… a person who has supported his family since the age of 16 cant afford to do dis… a guy who made everything on his own , who has indian values wont do anythin like dis .. only he is not suffering his family is also suffering.. and u ppl say that his family will ofcourse defend him but let me tell u ppl .. family knows the whole truth dn why the hell they wont defend him, in todays world outsider wont cum, if anyone else steps up then u ppl will say dat he or she mite be getting sumthing out of it thats why they r defednding him … today media just wants to write negative things … no one wants to stand up for rite things , if media says one guy is a rapist ppl wil blv it … but noone will try to find out the real story behind it… i know the outcome will favour jons family but they want ppls support so that it happens fast.. just IMAGINE ur son brother in jail for doing nothing , how will u ppl feel …. stand up and support d family … juzz think one gurl complains in la then goes in texas n complain and dn in ny… isnt this rubbish … bail more than 3 million dollars how d hell he and his family will be able to raise that kind of money … n now itz no bail… american media is famous for such kind of things first they make dm n den dey destroy dm….. i want justice for anand jon … and i know he will get it but we want ur support so that he can get reasonable bail and he can fight for his justice ..
Proud to be an american
100
1:59 am
Sleeping with different girls everyday must be what the Indian culture is about. Of course , he is a single hard working boy. He needs to Unwind!!!.
What other nice way to do that without spending any money , and with cute white skinned babes!!!
He will get plenty of sex in prison, when he is convicted, from the strong MEN out there, not the gandhi types!!. Then he can go to his cell and meditate, what more do you need for moksha!!
proud to be an indian
101
10:37 am
u mite b proud to be an american .. dat doesnt mean that anand jon is guilty .. u american ppl think from ur ass datz ur problem… juzz apply some common sense… if u have any …. n u will come to know that he is innocent … its not about indian or american its about mankind…. god will decide later on that … anand is gonna get sex or those gurls in d courtroom will actually get raped… cheers mate … be ready …
Uri
102
7:29 pm
“u american ppl think from ur ass datz ur problem… juzz apply some common sense… if u have any ….”
Yea, we americans iz so stooopid. LOL
…….
Anyway I must disagree on this point (one of the only actually legible ones you had):
“but let me tell u ppl .. family knows the whole truth”
How many known child molestors, rapists, murderers, and other violent criminals have famillies or wives who sleep next to them every night and they had no clue what their spouse or family member had been horrifically doing?
Being someone’s relative or even spouse doesn’t mean you truly know what they do in the time you are away from them. It’s understandable to instinctively protect your own, but along with that sometimes you blind yourself to the truth about who someone really is because it is easier to think them perfect than see that they may not be such a good person, if not a horrible person. Anand Jon is far from perfect and far from innocent. It’s now just a matter of whether or not he is far rom being a rapist. That is still to be determined, and that is what we all must wait to see determined.
Unless you were with Anand Jon 24 hours a day 365 days a year, then you cannot say you know he is innocent any more than I can say I know he is guilty. I only know he is guilty of habitually being with younger women, not guilty of being a rapist. I have to wait and see on that one as we all must.
Lastly I’d like to say: assuming someone is innocent because they are the same race as you is just as racist as assuming someone is guilty because they are a different race than you. Everybody remember that as we wait for an outcome to this case.
JOhn
103
1:34 am
Sanjana is full of it. She knows very well her brother was sleeping around. We all have seen it being Indian so why would anyone want to frame him. Where are all the celebrities he claims to have dressed, how come no one is by his side? His whole image was built by moving around with an entourage of women and a cameraman.
He will be given the due process and he should prove he is not guilty. I knew him personally abt 8 years ago and found him very slimy and creepy. There was something so dishonest abt him.
Vinay
104
2:05 am
Sanjana is mainly upset that her main source of support and glamour is taken away with her.
I had seen Anand several times walking around like a pimp and trying to create an image of being so important (i guess walking around with white girls does get noticed) It was obvious that he was sleeping around, I had no idea that he was treating all these underage gals as her personal prostitutes and was playing mind games with them.
There is no way that Sanjana her mom or many of the inner circle did not know what was going on, but they all adopted ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ policy - who would have guts to confront this con man?
May be Sanjana and her mom should submit to lie detector test and if they pass atleast we can have some sympathy for them.
What was this 33 year old bag of hormone was doing running around surrounded by impressionable teenagers? He could not have steady girl friend or wife because it would be hard to find one who will put up with this Cxxp.
sam
105
2:20 am
103,104 your personal anger and viciousness is so apparent that you are even attacking the mother and sister. why is there so much animosity this is just personalized attack. allegations remain so until a proper trial and let that be when a judgment is made
kiran
106
2:22 am
Innocent until the trial proves otherwise lets not forget that- why attack the family?
Not only do you want to try to destroy the person but anyone who stands by and supports him is discredited.
Vinay
107
2:52 am
Kiran,
Here is why attack the family and inner circle.. it reminds me of a story..
Once there was a little boy who was kleptomanic. Because his mom and sister loved him so much they always covered for him. As the luck would have this gave little boy room to become an expert criminal.
After many years of crimes he was finally caught. He was sentenced to death in view of heinous crimes committed by him. Just before his hanging he was asked what was his last wish? He said, ” I would like to talk to my mom” The emotional mother was brought in. The son signeled mom that he wanted to tell her something private. As mother broght her ear close to his mouth, he took a large bite out of that ear.
Shocked and surprised mother asked, “Why would you be so ungrateful to your mother who loved you all your life?”
Son replied., ” Mom, I am in this position due to the fact that you did not stop me in time. Had you told me how wrong I was when I started, I would not end up dieing at this time.”
Moral of the story- When you allow someone you love to engage in criminal activity, when you cover up for him, when you lie for him - you are doing him much more disservice than you know.
To me this is a good lesson to other families where people are covering up for the misdeeds of those they love under false notion of duty. Wake up smell the coffee.
If this was apprant to everyone who was close to him (I have known the boy for 8 years) how can Sanju and mom be so blided?
This may explain why some of us are harsh on family.
U.H.
108
3:27 am
I feel primarily for his mother, who was likely completely unaware of his behavior, but his sister is another story. She worked closely with him regularly, traveled with him, and so forth and therefore had to know about his constant relationships with younger women. Everybody else did, how could she not?
Now, she wouldn’t know if he was raping them, nor do we. But either way she needs to stop portraying him as a victim, as he is far from it. He seduced models for work and for pleasure. Everybody knows this. Whether he raped them or not., no one knows. But it was his mistake to cross work with pleasure (and using underage girls mind you) and now he’s got quite a mess on his hands.
kiran
109
3:39 am
prejudgment is what is happening and we need to realize that there is a huge motive as far as the girls and conspirators are concerned
writing stories to show what? there are innumerable stories where there is a group plotting and manipulating to crucify someone successful-on one hand you have a bunch of wannabes and on the other side a person who worked as a first generation immigrant to reach somewhere
It is innocent until proven anything else
Vinay
110
3:43 am
Consent or not - when you have sex with a female under 18 that is statutory rape - legally a rape even if the girl ask for it. That is the problem. If district attorney can convince jury that he indeed had sex with these girls he is in trouble.
jo
111
3:43 am
The investigation on the conspirators reveals the truth -they face a minimum of 2-7 years in prison for perjury for trying to keep an innocent man in jail
Vinay
112
3:53 am
Here is a story by Stacia, she has never met Anand and has no reason to benefit from it.. but she can testify about the predatory technique of Anand
Pathetic Anand: I never met Anand Jon (”Fashion Foul,” by Glenna Whitley, May 10). I have a strict rule about meeting people that contact me on MySpace claiming to be fashion designers and photographers. More often than not, it turns out exactly like this.
That didn’t stop Anand from contacting me and then berating me as a “self-indulgent spoiled little bitch” who would “never make it in the modeling industry.” That’s nice, seeing as how I had no interest in modeling in the first place.
I knew something was wrong with this guy from the first moment he contacted me. I look much younger than I am, and for someone to approach me about doing lingerie shows just isn’t right. Then when he assumed that my polite refusal was me being shy and ordered me to send him more pictures of my body…well, sorry, but that’s not going to fly with me.
Anand Jon is nothing. He’s sleaze and trash. I feel extremely bad for all the girls that he was able to get to, and I’m glad he wasn’t able to hurt any of the girls I personally know (rather, we spent our time mocking him on MySpace for being so pathetic with his insults just because we had no interest in modeling).
Stacia
sam
113
4:36 am
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/wesupportanandjon
do read the thousands of comments her that support from actual models who worked with Anand Jon
sam
114
4:38 am
“He had the sizzle. If you were a wannabe, he was a great coattail to ride on.
kiran
115
6:31 am
Model Ella said, ”I worked with him for a year and so I know. All the girls who were with him never said anything, so I know it isn’t true.’
NDTV Correspondent
Friday, January 11, 2008 (New Delhi)
Friends and family of Indian designer Anand Jon in an attempt to save him say that competitors have conspired to malign him.
The Indian designer is accused of rape, 32 counts of them apart from sexual assault and lewd acts on a child. He’s been locked up in a Los Angeles jail since March last year.
Friend and model Ella Charanin, is in India with a message that Anand Jon is a nice guy. Jon’s family also insists he’s been framed.
Ella said, ”I worked with him for a year and so I know. All the girls who were with him never said anything, so I know it isn’t true.”
Jon’s sister Sanjana has been crusading for him. She and Ella have met Overseas Minister Vyalar Ravi, but are not certain whether India would intervene in this matter.
Sanjana said, ”It is a conspiracy only after Wall Street funded about US$ 10-15 million, that’s when the complaints started emerging. Tell me why wasn’t it before that.”
All these issues will come up before the US courts soon when Jon undergoes trial.
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038281&ch=1/11/2008%2011:03:00%20AM
kiran
116
6:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/user/hanigarg
kiran
117
6:34 am
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/anand-jons-sister-wants-rahul-gandhi-to-help-case/57245-8.html
aftab
118
9:41 am
c ppl we dont want to prove that he is innocent or not… but look at d case u will cum to know that he is innocent..why will one gurl go from one state to another and dn again to another to file complaint against d same person… ive heard from sumwhere that the lawyers in america feel pity for anand jon n his family… because this is d case whch has not happened before.. and its d first time dat a person is been crucified like dis… we just want that he gets a fair trial in america … n is able to prov his innocence fairly….
Smartopinion
119
10:37 am
This is very typical in the Mighty US of A. Just google on the company called as Computer Associates. This company was started by a Sri Lankan and a Chinese. But guess what when it became the 2′nd largest software company they tries a trick. Some share holders got together and tried to oust the Srilankan CEO but he foiled this attempt. So they used another trick. They attacked him personally and finally he had to resign..
Take a similar case against Krishna Concious society of US. When it became so big they tried to finish it off by having Child abusment..
These are techniques called as “Art of public opinion maniplation”. The CIA mastered this technique to fall foreign governments. Now they use the same technique against vested interest..
Just try to goolge on VNRs (Video News Release). These are advance public opinion propaganda techniques…
Even Pakistan’s ISI learnt it from the CIA. They even used it again India. Here is an example. After the success of frst movie by Hrithink Roshan all the foreign Khan movie investers paniced. So a VNR was used by ISI’s cell in Nepal which said that Hrithink made derogatory remarks against Nepal. The controvery was picked up by Stupid Indian media which can be easily menipulated even by U or me. The -ive impact scared some future invesrtors for Hrithink…
Smartopinion
120
10:40 am
One more comment. The fundamentals of the techniques which I mentioned above has one basis.. An opinion of an audience is based on the information that it receives.. If you can control the information then U can control the opinion…
Pondatti
121
1:28 pm
This thread is drenched with ignorance.
ignorance about rape victims behavior.
Ignorance about sexual predators.
Ignorance about what God will judge (I guarantee you this– he won’t force any girl to get raped, nor will he hand Anand Jon fresh virgins).
Ignorance about the heartbreaking-yet-true reality that not every Indian deserves our support.
Ignorance of how this banding-together, truth-and-justice-be-damned confirms the worst stereotypes about minorities caring more about themselves than what is honorable, moral, correct.
Ignorance about how the law works.
ignorance about how the modeling industry works.
Ignorance about “investigation teams”…seriously? “team1@gmail”? Please.
Ignorance about the ten commandments. Thou shalt not bear false witness, Chacko. Nor should thou cover the ass of an ass who is an adulterer, pedophile and rapist.
India is the greatest country and culture on earth. Blindly defending a criminal because he has a passport in common with you is an insult to you, your parents who surely taught you better and most of all, to India. India doesn’t need scum like Anand Jon, and India weeps when she sees the stupidity on this blog and on this thread. India is enlightenment, not ignorance. India is light, not darkness. India is more than this. You are doing more to disrespect India by defending Anand Jon than all of the people you pathetically protest. I’ll say it again:
YOUR BEING IN DENIAL ABOUT A CRIMINAL IS MORE DISRESPECTFUL TO INDIA, AND WHAT SHE STANDS FOR, THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
I hope Anand Jon gets exactly what he deserves, whether in this life or the next. I hope those of you who spewed your mindless, intelligence-free babbling on this thread get a fat dose of humility and reality.
The modern mullah
122
7:02 pm
ANAND JON IS INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY
Kash
123
7:40 pm
“He had the sizzle. If you were a wannabe, he was a great coattail to ride on.
kiran
124
9:49 pm
kash-IGNORANCE MIGHT BE BLISS and a LITTLE KNOWLEDGE DANGEROUS- how you can actually write without having evidence or full knowledge baffles me -Anand Jon launched most of the IT GIRLS from Paris Hilton, Michelle Rodriguez, Elizabeth Jaegger, Lydia Hearst, Amanda Hearst and many more-
let the truth come out and maybe you will owe everyone an apology for misguiding and manipulating the truth- how are you blatantly saying these lies-do you know any of them to so confidently comment and lie
U r ignorant Kiran
125
12:22 am
Kiran it is you who has head in the sand.
Come on u make us laugh when you say Anand Jon launched IT girls from Parish Hilton to Amand Hearst and many more.
For your kind information they all were celebrity before Anand ever came in their lives. They may have allowed to design few clothes for them.
And you think Anand actually had anything to do with them being celebrities.
get ur brain checked buddy
Kash
126
12:55 am
Knowing someone does not equal “launching” them.
Paris Hilton - Jon had Hilton attend some of his earliest shows to garner the attention it would bring from the socialite scene in NY at the time. HE needed HER, and has used her name as a “client” and “friend” every since. And as I recall, it was not Anand Jon on the sex tape which really made Hilton famous.
Michelle Rodriguez - It was not Anand Jon who cast her in her indie film debut nor any of her other roles. From my knowledge, Rodriguez and Jon were old friends (and he had her appear in his show to garner attention for him as well) and of late he had been using her fame in order to land a reality show development deal, which ironically it seems she pulled out of as well as their endeavor to delevop a clothing line together. HE needed HER, and has used her name as a reference and building post every since.
Elizabeth Jagger - She was “launched” by being the daughter of one of the biggest rock stars of all time and because of such was able to model alongside Keith Richards’ daughters for Tommy Hilfiger, a start upon which he career was launched. Tell me where Anand Jon comes into the equation?
Lydia & Amanda Hearst - Again, “launched” via automatic association with the Hearst empire and reputation. Another set of socialites who’s reputations were established upon their genes, upon which Lydia was in the position to meet fame fashion photographer Stephen Meisel, who is credited for discovering her and putting her onto the cover of Vogue (Italy) as her first job. Tell me where Anand Jon comes into the equation?
Knowing someone during, or even before, the time of their rise fame does not give you the right to claim credit for “launching” them. Tell me EXACTLY (in detail) how he “launched” these women? If anything it is his friendships and aquaintence with these women upon which HIS entire reputation is built, not the other way around. So tell me specifically how he launched them and I will gladly read it with an open mind. Thank you.
Kash
127
1:10 am
I would like to add, that if innocent of forced rape, I hope he is aquitted. But I certainly will not hesitate to shed some truth on the situation. I have no lies, only facts as I know them. If you have different information Kiran, please share, because so far, you have shared no information whatsoever. Your perspective seems to be that anybody and everybody in the world is a liar, and the only one who is truthful and valiant is Anand Jon and his family.
I won’t ignore the fact that the rape stories have holes, but you blatantly ignore anything anybody has to say about Jon that is not 100% positive. He is not a saint nor a launcher of careers. Defend him against rape charges all you want, but deal with the reality of who he was….and was not.
kiran
128
12:14 pm
Truth is you do not have facts about Anand Jon and what he has achieved.
If you have relevant facts otherwise please do share
Having done several months of research and study the facts are that Anand Jon
1 launched most of the IT Girls
2 was the only designer sponsored by Giorgio Armani
3 twice on the Newsweek list of best in the world
4 List of Top 50 NRIs in the world
5 List of most beautiful people in the world
6 Mayor Giulianis list of Top 50 Designers in the world
7 Worked with several charities for several years
8 Proud of being Indian and his culture
9 Brand name was evaluated by wall st at 10million$
10 Wall St was funding his line with additional 10-15million
Just a few facts that you obviously chose not to see or mention
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Champ
129
12:40 pm
Pondatti wrote:
“Ignorance about the heartbreaking-yet-true reality that not every Indian deserves our support.”
Listen jackass, this thread is about discussion. You are needlessly type casting this discussion. When Michael Jackson got in trouble, people discussed the case; some were in favour, some were not. No one really knows since none of us were there.
What is sad is how you deny Indians the right to discuss a topic. Now go and lick your white friends or whatever. Indians support India and have right to discuss social and fluffy topics like anyone else. They also have right to make fun of your white friends and their crappy white culture. I’m sure you have heard of black men being entrapped on false rape charges. But, of course, you hate Indians so there is no need to think that an Indian could possibly wind up in similar cirumstances. Indians know that rape is bad. We don’t need a report from some white loving jackass like you to figure this out. OK. Your post is dripping with condescension, i’m sorry to say.
Kash
130
1:46 am
Kiran, you still did not answer the question: HOW did Anand Jon “launch” those women? Be specific. And yes, he made some lists and racked up a few accomplishments. I’ve never questioned that at all, or ignored those facts. I’m talking about the number one item on your (and his) list however: “launching ‘it’ girls”. How did he do that exactly? You’re not answering the question. Please do.
And before you do, let me remind you again:
Knowing. Someone. Does. Not. Equal. Launching. Them.
Now, please explain how he “launched” them. Thank you.
kiran
131
3:18 am
IGNORANCE IS BLISS KASH-obviously you do not even know what launch means
A runway debut by the person is considered the launch-
So please try to gather some concrete information before you try to virtually conspire and assault someone
you are right knowing bits and pieces and writing totally irrelevant postings when you have no clue or concept of what the industry is-entertainment is-launch is-please
So he did launch most of these IT GIRLS
Kash
132
8:05 pm
That’s what I thought. All you can do is repeat mantras to yourself rather than provide any evidence as to how he launched them, because there is none. Runway debut? Miss Rodriguez is not a model. Miss Hilton is not known for modeling either. They walked and attended his shows years ago because they were his friends and he needed the attention and connections they brought him in doing so.
Launching means being responsible for their career. He is in no way responsible for these womens’ careers, especially not that of any ACTORS. Hanging out with them as they rose to fame does not mean he is reponsible for it. To say otherwise is a blatant and arrogant lie built upon nothing but ego. He didn’t make them, and if anything they made him.
If ignorance is bliss, then you must be amazingly happy.
Kash
133
8:26 pm
I would also like to clarify Kiran, that I am fully aware of the fact that Anand could be a “nice guy”. I am aware of his charitable efforts and his successes.
Unlike yourself , I am able to view both perspectives as I am aware of all of the above, but I am also aware of his often arrogant ways, common mistreatment of women who were not friends or family, and false declarations of being repsonsible for the success of others. Anand Jon has his good qualities. Unfortunately, his negative qualities seem to outweigh them and this is proven by the current situation he has placed himself (and his family) in. There has been years of behavior which has led to all of this. Guilty of rape or not, he has built the foundation of this unfortunate situation and now is left to deal with it. No amount of denial, excuses, or lies from he or his supporters will change the facts of who he really is.
I’ll say it again, if he is innocent of rape, I pray he is aquitted. But this does not change who I and many others know him to be. Hopefully if he is set free, he will work to change who he has become and allow his positive qualities to become the driving force in his life, rather than the negative ones which until now have been in the forefront and led us all to this moment.
Vinay
134
8:37 pm
Kiran,
I agree with Kash there is a huge difference between launching someone or when someone graces your fashion show. Even on his own website Anand does not claim to have launched any one of those celebrities.
You seem to know a lot about the virtues of Anand why dont you ever address his no contest plea to lewd behavior with minor back in 2003. There does not seem to be any controversy in that issue.
Did he also launch Aishwarya, Madhuri and Kajol?
Come on, my friend you know in your heart that you would not leave your 16 year old daughter with him alone - or would you?
As far as I am concerned if the prosecuters did not have strong case they would not have incarcerated him for so long. Even if he comes out of this by some technical defence - I am more than convinced that this boy did do some of the acts he is charged for. Just because OJ was found not guilty of Nicole and Ron Goldman’s murder - in my heart I know he did it.
Even if he gets out free his career will be ruined may be Anand should consider writing a book while he has a lot of free time on hand. The title of book I suggest is, “if I did it!!!”
good luck to you Kiran
kiran
135
8:48 pm
Allegations without material evidence also when a company gets funded does seem very illogical and fabricated.Being mean or arrogant does not make a person guilty . Not liking someone does not either. A book cannot and should not be judged by its cover and again its presumption of Innocence until proven otherwise.
Corrupting public opinion or misguiding them deliberately is definitely to intentionally keep an innocent man behind.
So like you mention pray for truth and justice- no one is asking for more
kiran
136
8:55 pm
Anand Jon was one of the first South Asian designers to debut for New York fashion week in 1999 and did make a phenomenal statement globally.
Celebrities were known and did their debut long before they became known. Brand building is something that pertains to entertainment and marketing and how starts market themselves through various avenues to promote imaging- not seeing or understanding brand building does not make statements like those above right-
Again let there be light- and truth and justice. Let there be a reasonable bail as defined by the US constitution and let the person accused be given a fair chance to defend himself and is it not better to judge after that.
Vinay
137
9:06 pm
Kiran Kiran Kiran..
you ignored the issue of 2003 where he pleaded no contest to Lewd Behavior to Minor.
Even if he were to be a genius guru of fashion and even if he were as you claim to bring India on the map of fashion world - does that justify Lewd behavior with minors?
1.3 Million dollar is not unreasonable bail considering that he is charged with crime that may put him behind the bars for life. Considering that he is a man of means with connection all over the world and like you said he has launched most of “it girls” He can be a flight risk or he may even put pressure on witnesses.
The real reason for him not coming out is this.. as soon as he comes out the gates of LA county jail the sheriff from NY and Dallas will be fighting to see who can get him first. That is why he is staying right where he is rather than go to Dallas. At lease more people can visit him there.
Kash
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9:53 pm
“Celebrities were known and did their debut long before they became known. Brand building is something that pertains to entertainment and marketing and how starts market themselves through various avenues to promote imaging- not seeing or understanding brand building does not make statements like those above right-”
I know all about branding and image establishment, more than you might think actually. I know for a fact that it was certainly not knowing, walking for, or being seen with Anand Jon that launched Michelle Rodriguez nor Paris Hilton. I don’t know much about the other three you mentioned aside from stating what I already did which is they were discovered by Hilfiger and a famous photographer, but if he wants to credit himself for their fame then more power to him, but he did not launch Hilton, and especially did not launch Rodriguez.
Anyway yes I would like to hear your perspective on the 2003 charge as well. I’d also like to hear your persepctive on the relationships it’s well-known he has with younger models. Will you at least acknowledge this fact?
sam
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8:26 am
(link)
Anand Jon case Judge orders lead detective to take the stand
Wednesday, 02.06.2008, 12:46am (GMT-7)
LOS ANGELES: Lead detective George Elwell was clearly not expecting the judge to order him to testify under oath during the Anand Jon hearing on January 30. Det Elwell was underdressed in a blue oversized sweatshirt, jeans and sparkling gold chain hanging halfway down his chest.
Det Elwell was on the stand to address highly questionable circumstances and methods including why a majority of the complaining witnesses interview transcripts are “missing”. Under oath detective Elwell swore that “only” four or five witness police reports had not been made from “more than a year ago”. This has opened up another can of worms for the prosecution as they’ve claimed the Anand Jon investigation began only 10 months ago based on a complaint on March 5, 2007.
Questions remain: Who was interviewed over a year ago? And why? Why is there no record of those interviews and contacts? Why were they interviewing people without any incidents prompting an investigation? In court the prosecution stated that they have turned over all discovery, interviews, police reports and does not have influence / control over other jurisdictions, but defense investigation has already discovered that CA did the interviews for most of the NY and TX complainants then forwarded the info to these jurisdictions, which explains why most of the witness interview transcripts are missing.
This may also may explain why most of the CA complaining witness charges against Anand Jon were filed over the phone without a personal interview. One thing is for sure, there is much more than “reasonable doubt” even before the trial has started.
FACT: Of the approximate 28 alleged victims, 25 continued to solicit work and had personal relationships with Anand Jon, 20 stayed with Jon and six became roommates after their alleged assaults. “Simply because multiple people repeat an incredible tale, it doesn’t flow that they then become credible,” says William Petrillo, Jon’s NY defense attorney.
Ironically, the prosecution complained to the judge about the defense investigation probing into MySpace and other background of alleged victims and witnesses while the alleged victims admit to online assassination and poisoning, recruitment of other alleged victims via the Internet / MySpace themselves. The judge ordered both sides to follow 1054 guidelines and that all the alleged victims and witness addresses be turned over to the defense team.
“we will locate and uncover and expose everyone who is planning to show up to trial; their motives, connections and lies and all within legal parameters of 1054″ relates one of the investigators. There has been tremendous outrage on this case, especially internationally, as the extreme illogical allegations and highly improbable stories by aspiring “model / actress” types sound like a celebrity witch hunt where an overzealous prosecutor turns a blind eye to facts and encourages the media with buzzwords and sound bites.
Only a few months ago the prosecution called Anand Jon a “violent serial rapist” and then mislead the secret Grand Jury of numerous facts to accomplish an indictment. However, at the November 7 hearing, the prosecution admitted to the court that there were “no injuries, no physical force and no weapons used.” What was also admitted was that only one alleged victim had a rape kit done – that test came back negative for trauma or assault.
This complainant was, however, found to have and admitted to consuming illegal drugs herself prior to even meeting with Anand Jon. Relating to the “witch hunt” theory, the prosecution during each hearing openly admitted to other investigations being conducted in other jurisdictions. It was finally admitted in open court that the LA office has colluded with TX and NY DA offices to hold Anand Jon without bail. This seems a direct violation of civil rights.
What happened to the 8th amendment to the Constitution? If this type of manipulation exists for a man famously known around the world, then think about the manipulation that can happen if one of us, the common man, the unknown man, finds himself in the sights of an overzealous prosecutor? The LA DDA also consistently mentioned Massachusetts (or Foxborough, MA). One question the defense kept wondering was how can anything be pending in a place he’s never been? Anand Jon was a guest speaker at Harvard University one afternoon, however that’s not in Foxborough, MA it’s in Cambridge, MA.
The trip lasted less than a day with his family. Yet, every hearing MA was curiously mentioned. Foxborough seems to be a catalyst for this case. It seems that an investigation began there but was refuted by LA. Did someone have it in for Anand Jon in MA? A partner? A roommate? An ex? All of this back story is being investigated and what has already been uncovered “will shock and unravel the pathetic ‘facts’ and motives of the case, including premeditated entrapment, conspiring and a level of prosecutorial misconduct that will make the Duke case look mild.”
The NY DA’s office was apparently under the gun by LA prosecution to get the first grand jury completed by the December 6th bail hearing date which locked Anand Jon in a “no bail gridlock” situation. Also, NY held back witnesses so that they could hold a second grand jury proceeding and indict him again if he had the prospect of making bail.
This is their version of justice?
If Anand Jon posted bail they would keep creating more allegations across the different jurisdictions and keep holding more secret grand juries to keep him locked inside unable to defend properly?
Says Petrillo, “One must wonder why the DA held back on additional complainants. Is it to assure his incarceration in case he posted bail?”
Anand Jon is currently in a legal gridlock of “no bail” between the coordination of the multiple jurisdictions. There is even an admission by the detective that he personally put Anand Jon in an INS violation and into INS jail when he knew Jon was not technically in violation at any point and the uncovering the truth.
The family and the attorneys are only looking to be given a fair bail so that a proper defense can be mounted to bring out these inconsistencies and continue to uncover the actual facts of the case. If found in violation the DDA can be barred (like in the Duke case) for life while the detectives can lose their jobs and face prosecution themselves as well as if any of the alleged victims are caught perjuring themselves they can face jail time of up to two years.
India Post News Service
Kash
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7:41 pm
All valid points raised. I do not trust the US justice system, and I never have. You know, I believe some of the girls’ stories. I also believe other girls have jumped onto the bandwagon. Lastly, I believe that the DA’s are grossly mishandling this situation, and that it could be they’re own errors in process which lead to his acquittal, not necessarily his innocence.
I think rather than a conspiracy at the hands of the system, it is incompetence. It would be a tragic thing if he really did commit any of these crimes, but got off because of idiot behavior of the various prosecutors and districts invovled. I still maintain that Anand Jon is not the person his supporters so desperately portray him as, due to personal knowledge, and that will never change. Rapist or not however, is still up for debate.
My question to his supporters and team is this: how can he defend himself any better outside of jail? The risk of him being let out includes the possibility being a danger to other women, the possibility manipulation and/or intimidation of witnesses, and a massive flight risk. His lawyer can meet with him in jail as often as necessary. I understand his family wants him out, but the truth is he would be no better able to justly defend himself if he were free rather than imprisoned. HE personally cannot go out and investigate cases and claims, but his team can. They are not in jail, so what is the issue (aside from some rushed behavior from prosecutors)? Anyone facing these numerous severe charges would be held on equally astounding bail.
If they want to fight this, they need to focus on the case itself, not trying to find technical loopholes in some attempt to have the charges thrown out. For now, that seems that is the defense’s only option. It seems the defense is focusing on how testimonies were obtained rather than their validity, and that says a lot in my opinion. That says to me that they likely have no real defense, and are desperate to instead discover some improprieties within the system so he can get off on a technicality.
Even still, we shall all see what happens from here. And I have no doubt it will be thoroughly interesting.
vinay
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8:13 pm
Kash,
I am sure all the friends of Anand will get excited reading that India Post article. However, that particular reporter has been continuously reporting in a state of schizophrenia, I am not sure why Ramesh Japra - the owner lets him get away with it.
Typically he will start with few lines with what happened. Like in this report the detective was asked to testify. That is good news. Once he catches your attention he will go on to mention all the feelings of Anand and his company in the same report. He does not separate “what actually happened” from “what he feels”
Not too long ago he reported that the courtroom was full of Indian community leaders and supporters. Next article he was crying and blaming Indian community for not coming to rescue this Indian Idol or God!
I am lost reading his rambling as to what happened after detective testified? Did the judge reprimend prosecution. Was any motion made or granted? What was the hearing about? It seems that he will leave out any detail that is not consistant with his theory.
He has the theory from the Day 1 is that Anand Jon is God’s gift to fashion industry, he has put India on the world map, he could never ever do anything that would be illegal, (he has never mentioned 2003 charge of Lewd Behavior to minor), and all the girls who are charging him are after his money or jealous, now that Anand is moving in big league they will become orphans!!!
I sincerely hope Ramesh Japra removes this bozo from his staff or he will lose credibility among readers.
Also look what is family is doing? Instead on concentrating on the defense they are touring India and giving interviews on Indian TV and news papers. Do they really think just because there are pictures of 30 people near gateway of India the justice system in USA is gong to crumble?
They need to focus on those people who might have witnessed the interaction the whole time between Anand and these girls. They need to focus on the back ground of these girls and see if they had accused anyone else of the same thing. If this is a big conspiracy as they claim running around all over the world is not going to help Anand.
If you take India Post out of equation I am not aware of any news media Indian or otherwise who have come up with conspiracy theory.
Remember OJ was found not guilty of murder. So anything can happen. Do not give up your hopes on Anand.
But please someone tell me about the 2003 incidence where Anand pleaded no contest to “lewd behavior to minor and accepted probation for three years.’
As I understand part of this probation was for Anand to not be alone with any female under 18 without her guardian or family present. (so Sanjana does not count).
Ramesh Japra - Please get some credibiltiy by reporting facts and not emotions in your India Post.
Ranting by JS Bedi of India Post ..
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9:13 pm
Hi all,
I am going to post all the links to India Post (the only news media who has gone in frenzy in case of Anand Jon. I am not sure what connection if any J S Bedi have with Anand but he might as well be one of his best buddies)
Anand Jon - is it Rape or Racism?
a balanced article written by sonal Ladva
http://indiapost.com/article/usnews/130/
“The seven victims are Autumn A , a fifteen year old child, Natalie P, Jessie B, Lindsay B, Avery G, Amanda C and Ashley R. Some members of the community think that Anand has been framed and that these charges are fabricated. So, is this actually rape or racism? We await the next trial date to see where this leads us.”
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http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/936/
Anand Jon – Guilty until proven innocent - by J S Bedi
“After the hearing I approached the D.A. outside the courtroom. She declined to talk to me saying that she would have somebody from “Media Relations” contact me. It appears that my India Post badge made her uncomfortable.
A number of so called Community leaders do fundraisers for politicians raising millions of dollars for their election funds. Well, I got news for the patrons and the politicians – it’s a payback time. Please talk to the politicians you have raised funds for and patronized. Tell them to talk to justice department. Tell them to talk to Sacramento or Washington DC.
What is the Indian Consulate doing about this? – What is the Indian Embassy in DC doing about this – or are they there simply to cater to visiting ministers. The Indian Government should definitely step forward to support someone who has done the country proud for several years globally ”
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Big show of solidarity for Anand Jon
Wednesday, 09.19.2007, 03:30am (GMT-7)
by J S Bedi
“India Post did a front-page story on the issue about two weeks ago and that feature covered a number of issues related to this case. What was NOT dealt with in detail was the role (or the absence thereof) played by the Govt of India and the Indian Embassy in Washington DC and the Indian consulate in San Francisco. We all know the human rights scenario in India and the value of human life in that country. As for the Indian diplomatic missions here the less said the better.
The key question that arises here is that is the Indian Embassy and the many consulates here simply to wag their tails at visiting Ministers and “VIPs
Ranting by JS Bedi of India Post Part II
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9:27 pm
http://indiapost.com/article/communitypost/1316/
Anand Jon pleads not guilty
Wednesday, 10.31.2007, 03:25am (GMT-7)
“I will contradict all the other columns that I’ve read – suffice it to say there are 59 counts and 20 complainants. Yet (here’s the contradiction) this writer sees him as the victim. As I’ve sat in court and I’ve seen the games being played by the prosecution. [How many of the other hundreds of columns that persecute Anand Jon have actually had a representative from that paper in court? In fact AP seems to always publish a story yet I didn’t see them in court on the 25 of October.]
In the audience, at least 25 supporters including community leaders that are taking a strong interest in this case.
This girl, the so-called “victim
sam
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9:46 pm
Vinay- you discredit anyone who supports Anand Jon personalizing and attacking him because you seem to personally hate the person. Did you have a personal animosity -did you just hate him
in any case let the family and people who actually kn ow the truth work on this and let the truth come out when this goes to trial
Lack of jail experience unless you have had ample jail time you might not know how the system works and based on allegations if someone is being held behind bars then any person could allege you and you would be behind not knowing what hit you-there is always the fair chance for any human being to defend himself-the fair chance to prepare for trial and a fair chance that he is Innocent until and unless he is proven otherwise- so why jump to conclusions
Vinay
145
9:57 pm
No I do not hate Anand.
No I have no personal experience of being behind the bar.
I am not sure you do either.
I have seen Anand at various events for over 8 years and have noticed his technique but I have not been a personal victim of him.
The above ranting by JS Bedi is what pisses me off. By the way I posted them for everyone to see.
You guys (those who know that he is innocent) have focused on
1. Bashing the victims/ accusers
2. Bashing the other media
3. Bashing the Indian community for not showing support.
4. Bashing Ravi as if his life depended on Anand Jon
5. I do know how the system work - currently I am fighting to clear the name of three Indians being mistreated by the system and I have no personal connection with any of them.
6. You are right family knows but I know that if they knew the facts I do not expect them to tell us the truth. If that was the case Anand would have learned the lesson after his 2003 probation for lewd act to minors. And reading about how Michael Jackson was treated by the Justice system.
I am not a vindictive person but I think blog like this more than anything opens the eyes of others. This may be a wake call for them.
Ranting by JS Bedi of India post part one
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10:00 pm
Anand Jon –Is it rape or racism?
Tuesday, 03.20.2007, 05:57am (GMT-7)
The seven victims are Autumn A , a fifteen year old child, Natalie P, Jessie B, Lindsay B, Avery G, Amanda C and Ashley R. Some members of the community think that Anand has been framed and that these charges are fabricated. So, is this actually rape or racism? We await the next trial date to see where this leads us.
Here is a balanced reporting by Sonal Ladva
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Anand Jon – Guilty until proven innocent by J S Bedi
Wednesday, 09.05.2007, 11:36pm (GMT-7)
“Anand Jon belongs to a lineage of Namboodri Bhahmins of Southern Kerala. (isn’t that special?)
After the hearing I approached the D.A. outside the courtroom. She declined to talk to me saying that she would have somebody from “Media Relations” contact me. It appears that my India Post badge made her uncomfortable.
A number of so called Community leaders do fundraisers for politicians raising millions of dollars for their election funds. Well, I got news for the patrons and the politicians – it’s a payback time. Please talk to the politicians you have raised funds for and patronized. Tell them to talk to justice department. Tell them to talk to Sacramento or Washington DC.
What is the Indian Consulate doing about this? – What is the Indian Embassy in DC doing about this – or are they there simply to cater to visiting ministers. The Indian Government should definitely step forward to support someone who has done the country proud for several years globally “
This could be the first chapter in biography – “ Anand Jon the great – Future generation may never believe that there was such a man who walked among us!
sam
147
10:03 pm
YOU SEEM JEALOUS VINAY
aftab
148
10:08 pm
vinay it clearly shows that u hv sumthn against anand jon… see dude i dont know wats ur prob but ppl like u hv no odr work and widout knowing the facts .. u r commenting about d case… as u r posting all d articles by bedi…u shud also read dm… bedi is the only journalist who is in d courtroom n is seeing watever is happening in dat court .. u shud encourage him as sum1 is standing for justice..but yes u have sumthing against anand jon so u wont support bedi or anand jon… from ur name it looks like dat ur an indian… i personally feel that u r jealous of anand jon..n if ur an indian … n ur behaving like dis… i feel sorry for u man… a person who support his fellow country men…but r doing d exact opposite…. dont worry wat has happened wid anand jon in america can happen wid any1…posting all d articles doesnt make ur baseless points right… cheers man… get well soon dude
gaurav
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10:16 pm
that 2003 thing is d only thing whch u ppl keep on tokin about … do u ppl even understand that 2003 case has been expunged means it over… anand jon and his family, they cant even tok about d case as its against d law of america… 2003 doesnt make him guilty … u ppl have jusst one point against him whch doesnt hold any point..on the contrary we have several points whch shows that this whole case is baseless …. no 911 call … no violence … no weapon … one rapekit dat also negative… then gurls after their alleged rape…roaming wid him n his family… all dz points sumwhere or d odr pruvs dat he is innocent
sam
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10:24 pm
dalls observer article was written and where do you think that came from
the fact that the media was manipulated by the prosecution and by the complaining witnesses to get an innocent man behind bars
having researched deep into this situation not as a jealous vindictive by stander but as a logical observer it seems highly improbable almost impossible that these complaints are even close to credible
the 2003 too maybe you should look into the case- before commenting
lewd is anything from walking without a shirt to using F*** or B*** so every person walking around by the beach where there is a mix of people from young to old could be arrested
also the only rape kit was found not to have any signs of rape or trauma
seriously have a logical open look into this whole case without being biased since you obviously dont seem to like Anand Jon
2003 - Vinay
151
10:26 pm
Sam - Gaurav - Aftab
1. Sanjana can talk about 2003 issue under assumed name and explain what happened.
2. unlike JS Bedi who can read the body language and decide who is guilty or innocent and you who know that he is innocent I am merely pointing to the news.
3. Opra and Ellen Degeneres were raped by their dad - they travelled to many places to gather, they even have lots of happy picture, they did not call 911, there was no violence… but they were raped.
4. 2003 probation specifically prohibited Anand to be alone with any one under 18 and also for him to varify the age of female he was with. Many of the allegations occured during this probation.
Anand does not have anything I want to be jealous about.
Vinay
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10:32 pm
Sam if your definition of lewd is correct why dont we have all the people behind bars.
Once again, I have nothing against Anand but I know..
Sexual transgression by rich, powerful, horny men over impressionable young ladies is a crime that is hard to prove. Those young girls do blame themselves rather than realizing they are victims. Once they miss the first few hours they know it is going to be her word against some giants word. The fear & intimidation takes over.
There is a much different level of tolerance to sexual harassment and abuse in USA vs India. So it isnot uncommon for Indian men to take the joy ride for granted. I am sure if this case was in India it would not have gained such magnitude.
On the other hand wrongly accusing someone is also a big problem - such as in Duke’s case.
sam
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10:48 pm
Vinay you are so right then what would you call exploitation of men by manipulating the law by these not so innocent women. these are young women who partied around with the same guy after their so called allegation- are you kidding!!!
there is significant relevance to one fact–when Anand Jon was just a upcoming designer without much money there were no problems- it all started only when they thought his company had money
Ranting by JS Bedi India post part II by Vinay
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10:49 pm
Anand Jon pleads not guilty
Wednesday, 10.31.2007, 03:25am (GMT-7)
I will contradict all the other columns that I’ve read – suffice it to say there are 59 counts and 20 complainants. Yet (here’s the contradiction) this writer sees him as the victim. As I’ve sat in court and I’ve seen the games being played by the prosecution. How many of the other hundreds of columns that persecute Anand Jon have actually had a representative from that paper in court? In fact AP seems to always publish a story yet I didn’t see them in court on the 25 of October
In the audience, at least 25 supporters including community leaders that are taking a strong interest in this case.
This girl, the so-called “victim
Kiran
155
10:51 pm
HOW DO YOU PUNISH WOMEN WHEN THEY LIE OF SUCH INCIDENTS?
true such a crime is evidently on the rise and the more they get away more innocent men will languish behind bars. there has to be proper laws advocated to protect both as well as punish whoever commits the actual crime
men who commit crime as well as women who lie and allege men to have committed a crime should be put in jail
Vinay
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10:53 pm
I think this is a very good lesson for every one of us.
Do not be alone with a female not only that announce that rule as many times as you can. Always point out to everyone in your circle that I keep the doors open when I am with opposite sex.
Exploitation can occure and as you can imagine it can be very costly.
Specially you are working in fashion industry avoid any appearance of impropriety.
And remember even if a girl under 18 begs you for sex - don’t do it. That is a statutory rape and your name will be on a government website for rest of your life.
Vinay
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10:54 pm
Kiran you are so right. There is not much protection for us man. If woman charges you and they can not prove the case you go free but the damage is done to your reputation.
That is why an ounce of prevention is better than pound of cure.
Vinay
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10:55 pm
That is why a smart doctor will never examine a female patient without a chaperone present and most of the time chaperone is not some one from his own family
Kiran
159
11:04 pm
Most articles are written off of the press release given by the prosecution thats why there is so much bias and so much negativity towards the defendant.did you actually read any of those articles–maybe if you actually spent time studying the case and collecting actual facts you will see light.
the dallas observer story which soft porn, wonder how these kind of articles are published and what facts does the writer have to have written this
Kiran
160
11:06 pm
Vinay-
Anand was not the dad here was he?
you are talking about kids and incest not relevant at all
also how do you know anything about the 2003 case? seriously stop lying and creating fictitious scenarios in your highly volatile imaginative mind
Kiran
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11:08 pm
Vinay-these claims are when there were several people present so stop assuming and again lying -you dont have any facts but you write based on your personal imaginative sourcing-great
try investigating and getting some real facts for a change
Vinay
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12:41 am
Kiran I am not assuming anything.
Even Anand has never denied being with these females alone EVER
His lawyer had denied the forced sex not sex.
If he spent fifteen minutes with the female alone he opened him self up for the accusation.
I was suggesting that those who want to avoid these need to have a very publicly announced principle that I will not be along with a female behind a close door for what ever time
Vinay
163
12:42 am
And Kiran how the hell can you tell that he never spent any time with a female alone?
Are you claiming that you were with him or someone was with him entire time?
Uri
164
12:53 am
Who gets a rape kit unless they feel they’ve been raped? If he isn’t very large, she wasn’t a virgin, and he did not commit the act in a violent fashion (i.e. thrashing about), then there would be no sign of trauma. If at some point she showered to wash the violation off of her, and a condom had been used during, there would also be no DNA. What you must realize is that rapes are not always knock down, all-out brawls. If she said “no” at any point and he acted anyway via a physical OR verbal threat, that is rape. The fact that she even went to have a rape kit done period is quite telling, in my opinion.
But as we establish earlier, bickering solves nothing. From what I have seen, those who are able to see from a balanced perspective or “could be innocent or could be guilty” are labeled as assaulting and part of a conspiracy. It is as if, if you do not hold Anand Jon upon a pedestal and are not willing to swear by his purest innocence on your life, then you are a hateful person who is out to tear him down and are part of a mass conspiracy.
This is certainly false. There are people here who know things about Mr Jon on a level that most may not and they have voiced their concerned that these charges MAY be true. That is their right, just as it is for you to voice your opinion that these charges MAY be false. The key words in both of these statements: MAY.
Kiran
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6:25 am
http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/06/witness-claims-designer-has-been-framed/
Witness Claims Designer Has Been Framed!
Posted Apr 6th 2007 7:29PM by TMZ Staff
Anand JonA business associate of Anand Jon, who was in Jon’s apartment the morning after Jon allegedly sexually assaulted a woman, tells TMZ that he saw the woman that morning, and nothing seemed wrong.
The man, who wished to remain anonymous, says he arrived at Jon’s apartment around 9:30 AM, and when he first saw the woman, she appeared to be in a “happy, giddy mood.” He claims that she took a shower, tried on three pairs of Anand’s jeans (and asked for a free pair), before leaving for lunch with other people who were at the apartment the night before.
Jon’s friend says that he spoke with law enforcement, but got the bum’s rush after “they didn’t get the answers they wanted from me.”
Kiran
166
6:26 am
Yeah what alleged victim would be trying on clothes and asking for free pairs of jeans-
Kiran
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6:27 am
There is ample evidence that there were always other people so again stop assuming- were you there?
sam
168
8:44 am
The family and the attorneys are only looking to be given a fair bail so that a proper defense can be mounted to bring out these inconsistencies and continue to uncover the actual facts of the case. If found in violation the DDA can be barred (like in the Duke case) for life while the detectives can lose their jobs and face prosecution themselves as well as if any of the alleged victims are caught perjuring themselves they can face jail time of up to two years.
DRVIJAYMEHTA
169
10:13 am
http://vmehta.conforums3.com/
Dr Vijay Mehta
Mammen Jacob
170
5:03 am
Anand Jon is framed by Italian Mafia. Designers like versacci or Donatella dosent like Anand. So the Italian mafia framed him. So now he is not a compatition for him
Mammen Jacob
171
5:10 am
Sanjana…Italian mafia is behind all of this alligations. I am verymuch sure about it.
Veerappa
172
6:05 pm
I agree with mammen….Anand is clearly framed by italian fashion mafia.
Veerappa
173
6:16 pm
his mother dosent know, who anand jons father is?
Veerappa
174
6:21 pm
Anand born out of wedlock? I never heard anything from his father.
question
175
1:25 am
when is his next court date?
djt
176
3:11 am
It’s begining to sound like it. He never, never talked about his father.
Mg
177
8:28 am
Are Anand Jon’s parents divorced? His dad must be pretty bad looking as Sanjana and Anand don’t look anything like thie Mom? Sanjana married an american , got her green card and is divorced now. Now she is after a white guy.
If anand made his niche in India, his sexual behaviors towards young girls would have been ok, since girls who want to get modelling jobs in India ,are supposed to submit thier bodies to thier masters one or many as needed and everyone just laughs it off. The problem is that the sob went to US at 17 and didnt realise things dont work like that in this country. You cant treat the girls as your sexual slaves. You can get them to do that by paying which Indians won’t. And its not cheap.
It would be nice to see him finish his life in prison. He could design prison suits , maybe redesign the things used in prison and expand his creativity, which he would not be able to outside prison. He is so busy focussing on designing just clothes outside prison, this may be a godly intervention for him to use his real talent.
buy-uy
178
7:23 pm
ANAND SUPPORTERS:
When is his next important court date? What’s going on right now? Anything new?
indiancross
179
11:47 pm
I think all Indian Christians should protest to the Pope to the way Anand Jon is being treated in the US.
shantanu.dutta
180
4:21 am
indiancross : Is that a joke or what ? How is religion involved here ? It is a matter for the courts to decide.
Gal-D
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9:01 pm
So which is it? Is it religion? Race? Nationality? Disgruntled models? Jealous competitors? The mafia (lol)? There has been provided myriad of possible explanations from his supporters, none of which include that it might unfortunately be true. The next theory will be that there is an alien race who’s universe is threatened by the awe-inspiring purity and greatness that is this man and they’ve inhabited the bodies of models in order to fulfill their agenda of Anand-destruction.
Let’s get real. This isn’t mafia nor professional jealousy nor likely even at all to do with religion or race. The accusations seem to be one of the following:
1. Completely true
2. Girls looking for revenge against a man twice their age who used them and treated them like trash
Either way he messed up. Now me must wait and see if it was merely obnoxious arrogance….or rape. Let us pray it is not the latter.
m
182
9:29 pm
He is a rapist and deserves to stay in jail!!!!!!!!!!
m
183
9:30 pm
Anand jon is a rapist!
rani
184
1:53 pm
what goes around comes around-to anand jon s family especially his MOM
SV
185
4:27 pm
I came across this page while searching for Anand Jon since his sister was on a Tv program last night appealing for support for him.
After having spent an hour reading the above, and some links given, I am of the opinion that this a total waste of time. This feels like a court room. Arguments, and insults, are given for and against this guy.
Why don’t we let the court decide? If this guy is a saint, according to some, he will go free. If he is a demon, according to others, he will be punished.
I am reminded of something a public prosecutor friend of mine used to say: A murderer may get the benefit of doubt but an innocent is never punished.
Leveling allegations is one thing. Proving them beyond reasonable doubt is a different matter.
One thing that does feel strange is that why is there no support from the Indian community and the Embassy for this guy? Maybe they smell something fishy.
jj
186
2:03 pm
why is anand jon relatives not helping or supporting him openly espseially anand aunt prabha and yesudas and their children.why not people of kerala support them…
ravi
187
12:24 pm
Sanjana is so dumb and lies about her education.Anand claims to be a master of kalri he has never in his life seen kalari.they just lie about their past,make new friends as soon as the truth catches up and move like nomads, they thought they couild escape in the us but they r stuck now. rani defenitely knows this family specially all her moms beauty parlour tricks and enticing the poor tamilian men.and squeezing their rectum out.
Tenzor
188
12:00 am
hey ….this one is for kiran,………
With the information i got… i think anand is framed…….
But …he was close to a lot of celebrities like paris and nikki right(As sanjana told in a tv show)…then why aret they up bringing this case out and supporting AJ…….
Sai Sumitha Raju
189
3:17 am
It is very heart hearting situation for us as Indians. This is truly a racial discrimination for Indians who stay in US. I am raising my condolence to Anand Jon. As an Indian staying in USA, what is our community contribution to this issue? We gave to raise our voice and need to conduct a voting system and should make aware of this situation which Anand is facing for almost 8 months. Please join us for any moral support from our Indians who are all staying in US
triial
190
4:06 am
Sanjana’s GREEN CARD HUSBAND. The B….
I dated Anand Jon for years. I met him around the age of 20 in NYC,..and was on and off with him quite a while.
I understand how Anand operates, at least back then.
I was a good working model,..with a big career ahead of her. I started at Metropolitan, …went on to I.D. Model Management,..Elite,…and wound up at Ford.
Anand preys on the girls with no agency backing them. I was so young..easily manipulated. Anand was always in need of money. Always finding “investors” for his company…He once tried getting $13,000 from me.
He has a way about him. A way of wrapping the weak,..into his “world”…the ill treatment I endured from that man…I am proud of each and every young woman who came forward against him. All those years ago, I was battling alcoholism, and because of that addiction, I never stood up to him. I allowed horrible things to happen to me,..between us, and he knew where my shame lied within my drinking habit…..I did not know what my future would later hold in store for me…My disease,..has nothing to do with Anand Jon. Nor did he ever purposely ply me with anything…I was hiding my problems,..or so I thought…I was vulnerable, and alone in NYC…I allowed myself to be his “favorite”…I used to call him Baby Hitler…He is still to this day the most cunning man I have ever known. I was working a lot,..always on a plane,…and our relationship was very VERY sick and twisted. I remember the first time he forced me to have anal intercourse with him. In a closet,…in his old Soho Studio,..I was willing to have intercourse,..the anal part was forced…He held his hand in my mouth so I couldn’t scream,..I bit him as hard as I could. I had never had that specific experience. I was in bed 2 days afterwards.
I used to go over every night after my castings,..or bookings if I was in town,..when I started becoming successful, he would come to me on Bleeker street…(my first apartment)…
If anyone will truly look back and remember,..none of the big-name agencies would work with him…his girls were all dying for the opportunity…dying to be seen. Anand has a way of wrapping you around him,..he is cunning enough to convince you out of your normal mind frame.
So much sickness with that man. We went round and round for years. He knew when I was traveling a lot for work,..I was drinking heavily on my down days. He had a way of making me feel I was nothing without him…it’s funny how he did that. I spent so much time proudly showing him all I was accomplishing…the campaigns I began shooting…the runways I walked down…were never good enough…looking back, I don’t know how he could convince me otherwise, then an Elite Model,..I was not good enough to walk his runway…HE NEVER PAID HIS GIRLS!!..When he did, it was a couple hundred dollars. I never made anything less than $1,500 a day! I would walk the Paris runways for a nice mint,..come back to NYC,…and my back -on-boyfriend-Anand,..is bragging about his blessed life…his false press…the 1 singlular girl he could get from an actual agency with prestige…and the randoms he would pull off the streets…I think I was trying to prove something to him…again…this is all over a decade ago!…
There were so many arguments. I never stood up for myself. I was becoming convinced I was a piece of dog-poop. I went through two abortions with Anand. His sister Sanjana laughed when she heard I was pregnant a second time…She thought it was funny. Our mothers spoke on the telephone the first one. Another manipulative woman. I remember she would come into the studio early in the mornings when she knew I was there. She would wake him with a hot bath already poured. Breakfast being cooked,..and daggers shooting through her eyes at me.
She would comb his hair for him…My God,..Sanjana and ShaShe (sorry if I spelled that incorrectly)…would run around him. Doing everything for him. There was always something fishy going on regarding his working papers…I remember a certain trip to Canada with him, when I only realized as we were crossing back into the US,..he was being nice to me,..only to have an American with him on the trip…in case there were any difficulties getting back into the country…I remember strange stories circulating about Sanjana being married…to a man no one ever saw. ShaShe back and forth from India.
Carrying clothes that I distinctly knew Anand never actually made,…let alone design…Yes, the man is a talent!..That does not negate he barely created half his collections…I used to argue with him about that.
I remember getting into fights with him,..and he would take presents into my modeling agency…(Metroplitan at the time…I had the loveliest booker in the world who hated me with Anand Jon) His presents consisted of little wind up toys of a dog..sexually penetrating his master..YES I AM SERIOUS! He wrapped it up and took it to my agent to give me…another “gift” from Anand was a dozen dead roses wrapped in barbed wire…
I remember the humiliation of dressing in his clothes,…and going out on the town,…for his benefit,…and enduring him with other women…Many many many arguments over other women….I would sit by myself…alot!
I remember the “harem” of women he had accumulating in his studios….models with no money,…willing to do anything for him…anything for a roof over their heads…Back then, I was always trying to prove his ways were wrong…it took years for me to leave him altogether.
I am being very nice with my stories of recollection…probably because I still carry the shame of my alcoholism in those days. I cried so many times, he had hurt me so badly, and I allowed him to do so. I think this is why he is truly convinced he is innocent…or not…pathological could just be a better word.
You could only walk away from Anand. You could never win. You were never right. I am sure,..to this day,..if you mention A. McNeal to him,…he would tell you I was his favorite…I am supporting these women all from afar…I am silently cheering them on. I wonder whatever happened to Rhonia from Kuwait…she was working for him when I first met him,..she told me horrible stories of him forcing her to orally satisfy him after a long day,…or in a taxi-cab…I was so wrapped up trying to figure out if he was “cheating” on me…I didn’t really stop and think…another woman,..was standing in front of me,..describing Anand, taking her head and forcing her to satisfy him in a taxi…and why would she do this??…because look where she came from!…She was happy to be in the USA and walk with her face showing….
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You see,..Anand is a rapist. He found a way to get away with it for years. He begins teaching you his culture. Convincing you, he has a secret to life…a secret of getting what he wants…he prides himself on being a master manipulator…He would BRAG to me how he got EVERYONE to do what he wanted!..
Anand does not eat KOSHER! When I read his letter, well,..same old Anand Jon, at least one of us got help!…I told him so many times,..you are in America…You respect her! And her WOMEN!
I have read many comments above mine,…most are friends of his family,..saying anything to help him. (a couple names I didn’t recognize)
He is a master manipulator,..and a rapist…
I am ending this letter now.
I am watching in the wings as this man receives his fate. Tell him,..A McNeal warned him about this! I told him,..America protects her women!
I have kept journals since I was a 7 year old girl…1995-1999 …I could write a book on my days with what was to become the biggest serial rapist California has ever seen.
I believe he was only an infant when we began,..the monster he graduated into,..is the man these women are standing up against. Go GIRLS! I am with you in spirit.
For each of them,..there are at least 5 not coming forward..take it from me…I endured him the longest.
As Sanjana used to “lovingly” refer to me…
Vijay
191
4:31 am
Trial,
Your are telling a compelling story. You might want to contact the attorney general in California, Texas and New York. They might be able to use your diary.
Why did you take so long to come forward?
If you know others can you also encourage them to share their experience.
Am
192
5:33 am
The partial fault of how this guy became a master controller and manipulator,, raping all the girls first before making them work for free, lies on this woman his sister called SANJANA. The mom and the sister are the ones who would try to teach a boy respect of a woman, but they taught him ALL AMERICAN WOMEN ARE EASY,No RESPECT NEEDED, and can be done whatever their unmarried boy could do for pleasure and relaxation. Only exception is the upper caste indian woman tucked away from sight!
Sanjana if you ever have a boy dont repeat the same mistake! Of course you will stay in US thats what you are in a green card card marriage for, to buy citizenship, remember this. When the uncle is rotting in jail everyday remember this!
If there is truth to atleast one of the girl’s story he must be punished
AM YOU ARE OBSESSED
193
11:50 pm
AM we are concerned about you
you need to see a shrink- you are seriously obsessed with this family
please go to a doctor- you need help with your obsessive compulsive disorder
a concerned person
AA CALLING AM
194
12:06 am
HELLO AM HERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HAND- DO YOU DO ANYTHING BUT SEND HATE MESSAGES . SEEING YOU POP ON DIFFERENT SITES NOW CUTTING AND PASTING THE SAME MESSAGES, CREATIVE!!
TIME FOR YOU SERIOUSLY FOCUS ON YOUR OWN LIFE AND NOT OBSESS OVER EX BOY FRIEND(S) AND THEIR SISTERS.
YOU VICIOUS ATTACKS DEFINITELY SHOW YOUR HATRED FOR THE FAMILY AND YOUR JEALOUSY
READ THE BIBLE AND LET THE GOOD LORD THROW SOME LIGHT
LEARN TO LOVE NOT HATE
Anand Koothi
195
12:01 pm
let him stay he belongs
koothy
Am
196
10:48 am
I have time for myself, as much as I want. I earned it. I will do whatever I like with my life. Why not let the US government let these south indians stop immigrating here! The culture is demeaning to women and 99% of the people are corrupt.
rani
197
5:09 pm
Sad to see that the family is suporting Jon for wrong things in life.Aunty Shashi if you are reading try to change yourself ………….you are still after men younger to you in Chennai.You will pay for it .You have not learnt yet.Try to change save your son and get your children on right path.If you spoil another family and run after married men God is watching and will show you the way.Save your Son.
Against AM's stupid comment
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6:25 am
AM.. how dare you say that south Indians should be stopped from immigrating. South Indians(esp Tamilians and people from Andhra) have better culture than North Indians.
Ramone Parez
199
3:20 am
What ever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”. Leave this poor guy alone and let us see what comes out of the trial
sana
200
1:55 am
Don’t believe a word she says. He is certainly guilty and she and her mother make money by defrauding people. Karma honey.
AM
201
3:37 am
Justice served to all women in AMERICA. Leesons for Sanjana . She did a fake marriage and got away with it, but not her brother on sexual attacks!Sorry, the “boy” did too many acts of rape, could not stop!Should have gotten him married earler!
JSN
202
8:03 am
Im so pleased to hear of anands conviction… i was in the dallas observer article..
“Anand followed, demanding that Nizewitz return home to get Emily’s luggage so she could spend the night with him. “Are you on drugs?” Nizewitz asked. “No way.”
i always knew there was something wrong with him, i like to be right. there was no way in hell i was going to leave my friend at that house that night… sanjana is a nasty little brat too… she even made a website about me, perhaps she has a crush on me. if u want to have a look see at sanjanas maturity level, go ahead and google my name. and that richard character, i always assumed she was using him to get citizenship. am i right again? the sentencing is scheduled for my brithday, jan 13… hey sanjana!! ill see you there sweetheart <3 ;p
Am
203
8:01 am
Hey, Indian bitches, this is answer to comment below by the Indian pathivarthas. If a man(married or whatever), went after his mother , its not the fault of the your bastard husbands, but its the fault of his mother!
So, when a woman is raped its her fault too, because she “invited “it or she let herself be in the guy’s presence alone. ALL THESE PATHIVARATHAS SOB HUSBANDS ARE SO PAMPERED THEY WILL WANT TO GET LAID TO PRETTY WOMEN EVEN ITS RAPE , IT IS THE WOMEN:S FAULT> THIS IS THE FEUDAL ATITUDE OF THE PAST IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD> If you are not ready to accept the ways of the civilized world, why do you come here!I pray that the dollar go down even further so that the great land of America and europe is not polluted by Indians and arabs. They do not know what they are doing when they are letting in these bastards.
Comment to Rani above,
Sad to see that the family is suporting Jon for wrong things in life.Aunty Shashi if you are reading try to change yourself ………….you are still after men younger to you in Chennai.You will pay for it .You have not learnt yet.Try to change save your son and get your children on right path.If you spoil another family and run after married men God is watching and will show you the way.Save your Son.
Sonny
204
8:18 am
Wow! Just read all of the comments above. I am amazed at some of the posts. I am convinced that America is not a good place for some of these people. When are you going to get it? YOU CANNOT GET AWAY WITH SEX WITH MINORS IN THIS COUNTRY! If you cannot get that into your head - leave now before it is too late.
Furthermore - RAPE IS ILEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY! You cannot pay the police or the victim’s families. You will go to jail. Please do not continue living here if you think this behavior will be tolerated.
Sorry to spell it out for you like this. But some of you AJ supporters need to wake up now before it is too late. Sanjana, be advised they may go after you too. Can you defend what you have done? You turned a blind eye to pedophilia and therefore allowed it to happen. Be careful. I don’t think this country was a good match for you and your family.
Before any of you scream racist, I too am South Indian. I live in America and I am aware of the laws here and respectful of them. I advise you all to do the same.
GC
205
10:17 am
From all the comments and newspaper reports, it looks like Anand was not brought up properly. He did not have good moral values. As one blogger pointed out, if its a conspiracy, he built the house and other moved in. Also he used others-his own close friends against him ? Many Indian celebrities are there in LA but they didnt play footloose and facy free. Aishwarya was here, so too many others. Neither did he follow Hindu values nor Catholic values. We can pray for him - that he will repent. I have a lot of respect for the Christian faith. Let this be a lesson - love God at every step and follow the law of the land. Then the lord will make your travails easier and you will be surrounded by loved ones. Anand, we in the Indian community love you, provided you own up moral responsibility. You have quoted Mahatma- be brave and fearless like him, even a fraction. His name forever shines in Indian hearts. You know tim the toolman-he went to jail too but turned his life around.
Sanajaa, as a Indian woman with enormous talent, break free of your brother and make your country proud.
rajeev nambiar
206
10:42 am
hi sanjana,
its really very sad tosee you and your family go through all is kind of ordeals. well i can only say that truth will alwaysbe the winner. ny prayers are always with jon. on the flip side i thnk its a slap on the faceof people who are out to get tohim. cause he has proved that an indian is always on top and what ever kind of tricks these goras try we will win. keep faith in god. he wont let you down.
rajeev nambiar-M.C.C-Tambaram (B:COM-87-90)
ABCD4life
207
2:00 am
She sounds full of it.
“When he was involved with any girl we would always meet her and go out or as a family spend time”
BS!. I do not buy that at all..shes full of it as much as he is.
Hope he rotts in there…RAPIST!
I would be skeptical if there was like one girl but so many coming out at a time..guilty!!
Dodi
208
1:15 pm
Sanjana knew about the underage girls. Disgusting! Now her brother is in big trouble and she can’t come clean. Sweetie, why didn’t you stop your brother when you had the chance. Why still lying?
Jasmine
209
12:00 pm
WOW is what I was thinking reading some of these comments, especially the ones that call anyone who believes Anand is guilty a “conspirator” and to contact the investigative team. WTF? LOL. That’s really pathetic and desperate, and in no way will obstruct people who know him and his family from expressing their opinions/facts.
I know him and his family and they’re all shady. And yeah, that goes for the mom too. Some of you people need to get the hell over this weak platform of him being “framed” etc. Who the hell is he in the grand scheme of the fashion world or even in the U.S.?? NOBODY. Trust me, there are bigger fish out there if a so called conspiracy theory was taking place.
Anand has messed around with very young girls and no I wouldn’t be suprised in the least if they were underage and/or if he pushed himself on them. His sister Sanjana and his mom were there and knew what was going on a lot of the times. They’re not the poster children for morals themselves, so why would they say or stop him? And yeah, his mom does have a reputation in India and HERE for being promiscous and shady. Finally, Anand has ROBBED people including someone I know of A LOT OF MONEY. He’s no angel and no one needs to do anything to try to “taint” his image: he has done that all on HIS OWN.
rani
210
1:56 pm
please are you listening! DA.Los angeles dont let anand jon out instead see that the motherand sanjana are also behind bars .Good for the world!!!!!!!!!!!!
A.M.
211
4:12 am
TO THE IDIOT WHO IS MASQUERADING AS A.M….I am A.M I wrote the first very long letter…regarding having dated Anand Jon for years. The rest was not me. It is many months later,…not only did I NOT write my original blog on this site…It was cut and pasted, IT WAS STOLEN!…I am horrified that anyone would PRETEND to be me and write such MALICIOUS LIES ABOUT THE INDIAN COMMUNITY!…GET IT STRAIGHT NOW!…I MYSELF AM A WOMAN OF COLOR WHO HAS ENDURED MUCH PREJUDICED AND RACIAL DESCRIMINATION! FOR GOD SAKE!
HOW DARE YOU!
I DO NOT TAKE BACK A SINGLE WORD OF WHAT I WROTE LAST AUGUST ABOUT ANAND JON! HOWEVER, NEVER…WOULD I WRITE INSULTING AND RACIST REMARKS TOWARDS ANOTHER ETHNIC GROUP! TO THE IDIOT PARADING AS ME….GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT…I HAVE 2…COUNT THEM TWO RACES IN MY BLOOD! RESEARCH YOUR LIE…BEFORE YOU PROCEED WITH IT!…..
A.M...PART 2 OF THE ABOVE
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4:20 am
I JUST READ THE LETTER IN ENTIRETY. MUCH WAS CHANGED! TO WHOMEVER THE WOMAN IS PARADING AROUND AS ME…GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW…YOU LIAR….YOU RE-WORDED MOST OF THE ORIGINAL WRITING!…NOT ONLY THAT..BUT YOU DELETED THE ENDING…IT GOES LIKE THIS….~AS SANJANA USED TO CALL ME…”THE DOCTOR!”….YOU HIPOCRITICAL LIEING IDENTITY STEALING BITCH!….HOW DARE YOU!…..
Ramesh Manghirmalani
213
4:54 pm
I am so sorry to hear about Jon, I am sure it must be hard for his family and I wish him the best. I think case should be re tried in court. Kind Regards for his family